First of all, I have driven these two engine models. Let me talk about the driving experience first. The Volkswagen 1.4T plus dual-clutch has faster power in the initial stage. When it reaches 100 yards or more, due to the limitations of displacement and horsepower, the power becomes faster. The acceleration capability is far inferior to PAS Citroen's 1.6T engine. In terms of power, Volkswagen's 1.4T engine has a maximum power of 150 horsepower, a maximum torque of 250 Nm, and a peak torque of 1,750 to 3,500 rpm. The Citroen 1.6T engine has a maximum power of 167 horsepower, a maximum torque of 245 Nm, and a peak torque range of 1400-4000 rpm.
It can be seen from the above that the Citro?n turbine will fully intervene when the speed reaches 1400 rpm, while the Volkswagen 1.4T turbine will not fully intervene until the 1750 rpm. In the initial stage, if the accelerator is not pressed deeply, the Volkswagen 1.4T turbine will not fully intervene. Without intervention, you will obviously feel a lack of power, especially in congested stop-and-go sections where it is difficult to control the throttle, which is what everyone calls a sense of frustration. Citro?n's torque output is wider, and it will be more linear regardless of starting acceleration. Due to its larger displacement, the Citroen 1.6T has an advantage over the Volkswagen 1.4T in terms of re-acceleration capability in the mid-to-high-speed range. The Volkswagen 1.4T engine benefits from the faster shifting speed of the dual-clutch. When the turbine is involved, it gives people a stronger sense of acceleration.
This 1.6THP engine of PSA Citro?n was developed in cooperation with BMW. It has won the International Engine of the Year Award for 8 consecutive years. Since then, through continuous optimization, power and fuel consumption have been improved, and more engines have been adopted. High-tech technology, using twin-scroll turbine technology, is currently available in many Citroen models, such as Citroen Tianyi, Citroen C5 and Citroen C6. The technology is relatively mature and the quality is relatively stable.
Citroen 1.6T must be stronger than Volkswagen 1.4T. Among them, Citroen 1.6T engine was once one of Ward's top ten engines of the year. Citroen's 1.6THP series engine is widely used in Citroen and PSA Group. On the two Peugeot brands, the engine used by the French luxury brand DS models is basically the THP series. The Volkswagen 1.4T model EA211 engine is a different version of this engine used by almost all Volkswagen brands except B-class cars.
Here we compare the Citroen C4L1.6T with the Volkswagen Sagitar 1.4T. The difference can be seen from the data. Although the difference in engine parameters between the two models is not very big, the C4L1 The .6T engine has obvious advantages. The turbine kicks in at 1,000 rpm and reaches maximum torque at 1,400 rpm. However, the Volkswagen Sagitar's turbine kicks in at 1,400 rpm and reaches its maximum torque at 1,750 rpm. It can be seen that the 1.6T is already in play from the start of both models. The effect of turbocharging is naturally stronger than that of the Volkswagen 1.4T.
The displacement of these two engines is different. It is certain that the 1.6T has an advantage. The positioning of the two engines is also different. Among Citro?n models, this engine is installed in the main models. Its biggest selling point is that this series of engines also has a low-power version of 1.2T and a high-power version of 1.8T. However, what is strange is that French cars basically do not have 2.0T engines. I believe it is mainly because there is no large car platform.
Besides, the Volkswagen EA211 engine series has a large engine displacement, ranging from 1.0T to 1.6L self-priming turbines, which are quite comprehensive. Audi also has an engine model EA211. There are many technical levels common between the two. To put it simply, there is not much difference between the EA211 engines of the two brands, but the adjustment is very different. Of course, the difference in power is also relatively large.
The difference between Volkswagen’s 1.4T and PSA’s 1.6T is not 10, but at least 100.
The low twisting, explosiveness, and endurance are unparalleled!
I have a relatively strong say. VW 1.4 is really good, but there is a gap compared to 1.6 of the legal system. VW 1.4 is only limited to the starting stage and lacks stamina after 40, while the training of the legal system is just the opposite! I drove the 1.4 high-power version! The 1.6 of the French system is compared with the Volkswagen 1.8, and the 1.8 is compared with the Volkswagen 2.0!
The Citroen 1.6t can beat the Volkswagen 1.4t. You must know that the Citroen 1.6t engine can be 170 hp, 200 hp, or 220 hp, and the torque can be 250N.m, or 250N.m. 300N.m, of course the 1.6t engine is not pursuing speed, but a steady stream of power and instant explosive power!
PSA’s 1.6T engine can definitely outperform Volkswagen’s 1.4T engine. First, let’s take a look at Citro?n’s 1.6T engine, which has a maximum power of 125 kilowatts, a maximum horsepower of 170 horses, and a maximum power speed of 5500-6000rpm. The maximum torque is 260 Nm. This is its overall condition. Let’s take a look at Volkswagen’s 1.4T engine with a maximum power of 110 kilowatts, a maximum horsepower of 150 horses, a maximum power speed of 5000 rpm, and a maximum torque of 250 Nm. In these aspects, Citro?n’s 1.6T The engine needs to be stronger.
The THP engine on the new C5 of Dongfeng Citroen T Era is one of them. The 1.6 THP engine jointly developed by PSA and BMW has many unique features. The homogeneous mixed combustion supercharged direct injection system uses lean mixture fuel stratified injection (FSI) technology to further reduce fuel consumption and reduce CO2 emissions. It has the potential to meet future ultra-low emission regulations and represents GDI. Important development direction of engines! The Dongfeng Citroen 1.6THP engine was jointly developed by the PSA Group and BMW. It was highly praised by the industry and the media during the selection process. The leading technology of the Dongfeng Citroen 1.6THP engine has made it evergreen in the automotive industry.
In order to ensure strong power while improving fuel economy, this 1.6THP turbocharged direct injection engine uses many advanced technologies in its design: turbocharging and intercooling technology, Twin scroll dual-flow channel Turbine technology, 200bar high-pressure in-cylinder direct injection technology, lightweight all-aluminum engine, ECU-controlled variable displacement oil pump, clutch water pump + electronically controlled thermostat, etc. The 1.6THP engine uses dual flow channels and a small mass turbine. This allows the exhaust to drive the turbine to rotate when the engine speed is not high. The double-flow channel leads to two exhaust vortices, which guide the exhaust gases of cylinders 1 and 4 and cylinders 2 and 3, which do not interfere with each other in the exhaust stage, to the turbines respectively. In this way, the exhaust gases from each cylinder do not affect each other and will not generate negative pressure in the scroll passage, which can effectively improve the exhaust efficiency and turbine response speed, thereby improving low-speed torque output. From 2007 to now, the 1.6THP turbocharged engine jointly developed by PSA (Peugeot Citro?n Group) and BMW (BMW) has won the International Engine of the Year Award (1.4L-1.8L group) for eight consecutive years.
In 2011, this 1.6THP turbocharged engine was rated as Ward's top ten engines.
This 1.6T engine of Citro?n is quite good!
Not to mention the French 1.6T, the French 1.6 self-priming car was no match for Volkswagen's 1.8T Magotan A6 on the highway as long as the speed exceeded 80 km/h! The high-revving engine and chassis of the French system are nothing to boast of! The old Fukang car owner passed by mid-level cars of the same level and used the 1.4T, 1.6T, and 1.8T engines of the Volkswagen Magotan and Citroen C5 as reference objects. You can refer to them
Many new cars do not know the workmanship and materials of French cars, but Most second-hand car dealers like it very much. It has strong power and acceptable configuration. The key point is that the failure rate is really low. Not to mention that many taxis use Sega, 301, and Elysee. Just talking about the old C5, it is still not inferior to For many German brands, in Europe, the overall level of many models of French cars is higher than that of German cars, but they have no choice but to develop poorly in China
Let’s first look at a set of data, the 2017 Citroen C5350 and the 2020 Volkswagen Magotan 280, Magotan is a 1.4-displacement Citroen 1.6-displacement version. The C5 engine has a maximum output power of 123, a peak torque of 245, and 167 horsepower. The top speed can reach 215, and the acceleration time is ten seconds. The maximum output power of Volkswagen's latest 1.4 engine 110, peak torque of 250, 150 horsepower, acceleration time of just over nine seconds, and can reach 208. Although this top speed is meaningless, looking at the power parameters, Volkswagen has not taken much advantage three years later. Some people say that dual-clutch It is true that Volkswagen accelerates faster, but the acceleration of Volkswagen's low-displacement engines is mostly interrupted before the middle. The speed increase in the first 80 kilometers is indeed good. After that, the cooperation between the engine and the gearbox is not enough. The manual transmission is slightly better. French cars rarely use dual-clutch, and most of them use the traditional 6AT or the 8AT introduced in recent years. The speed increases smoothly and the power is evenly distributed. Friends who drive ordinary Sega or 301 should have a deep understanding of it
Read more Looking at the 1.8 version, the 16i Magotan and the 17 C5 were released one year apart. How much difference will there be if they have the same displacement? Magotan has a maximum power of 118, a peak torque of 250, and 160 horsepower. The C5 has a maximum power of 150 and a peak torque of 280. , 204 horsepower, Volkswagen still has the same dual-clutch, and Citroen still has the 6AT. The acceleration performance is almost the same, Volkswagen 8.9 seconds, Citroen 8.3 seconds, the top speed difference is 20 kilometers, one is 215, and the other is 235, there is not much difference. , but the powertrain is very different, even one year is enough to reflect the gap, and this gap can only be known by comparing it with those who have driven it. After going up to 130, Volkswagen's 1.8 is obviously weak, and the torque and power in the early stages give early acceleration. It creates a sense of pleasure, far from the deep and rich feeling of French car engines
The above is my personal opinion, don’t comment if you don’t like it, I hope it will be helpful to you
My cousin said a few days ago He came over and asked me if the larger the displacement, the faster the car runs. I said yes, but he said that his 1.6T 508L could not run as fast as the 1.4T Magotan at the beginning. He was very confused about this. Combined with the question in question, , the 508L 1.6T and Citroen's 1.6T are the same engine. Today we will take a look at the comparison between the PAS 1.6T and the Volkswagen 1.4T engines. Data comparison
1.6T: Maximum horsepower 170 hp 1.4T: Maximum horsepower 150 hp
1.6T: Maximum torque 250 Nm 1.4T: Maximum torque 250 Nm
1.6T: Maximum power 125kw 1.4T: Maximum power 110kw
1.6T: Maximum speed 220km/h 1.4T: Maximum speed 208km/h
1.6T: Maximum power Speed ??5500rpm 1.4T: Maximum power speed 5000-6000rpm
1.6T: Maximum torque speed 1750-4500rpm 1.4T: Maximum torque speed 1750-3000rpm
It can be seen from the data that, PAS's 1.6T engine has better performance than Volkswagen's 1.4T engine.
Gearbox comparison
The power output of the engine is inseparable from the matching of the gearbox. PAS's 1.6T is matched with Aisin's 6AT gearbox. Aisin 6AT focuses on stability and smoothness, so shifting is relatively slow. Slow, and the power response is not so timely. Volkswagen's 1.4T is matched with a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. Due to inherent structural differences, the dual-clutch has faster shifting speed and response speed than the AT gearbox. Overview
Although the PAS 1.6T engine is more powerful, due to the gap in the gearbox, the acceleration in the first half cannot outperform the Volkswagen 1.4T. However, the acceleration and power reserve in the second half are still better than those of PAS. The 1.6T engine is stronger.
So the question is, 1.6T with 6AT or 1.4T with DCT. Which of these two powertrains do you think is better?
By coincidence, at the end of June and beginning of July this year, I drove my sister’s Sagitar for a three-day self-driving trip. Because my car had a license limit, the acceleration ability of the Sagitar after 120 on the highway was indeed not as good as my 4008. I don’t know the weight difference between the two cars. But the overall wind resistance and gravity of an SUV should be greater than that of a car! My 4008 is 1.6, which is definitely not as good as 1.8, but it is indeed fine for daily use. The fuel consumption just can't be reduced. No matter how you drive it, the meter always shows 7.4. According to the ethanol gasoline, you should add one oil, and the Sagitar should save fuel. After a rough look at the highway, it should be in the early sixties, which is one oil lower than mine. The driving experience is indeed not as good as my 4008.