The bet between Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu was held on February, 2065438 13+ 12. At the 14th China Economic Person of the Year Award Ceremony hosted by CCTV Financial Channel, Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu argued about the competition between Internet mode and traditional manufacturing mode. Lei Jun said that Xiaomi's turnover should exceed Gree in five years. If it exceeds Gree, I hope Dong Mingzhu can compensate me for one yuan. Dong Mingzhu domineering response, if more than willing to pay 65.438+0 billion.
So, in fact, this gamble is very clear. For Lei Jun, gambling is worth a dollar, and for Dong Mingzhu, it is worth 654.38+0 billion. Of course, the two of them have no written evidence, so this gambling game has no legal effect.
At present, Dong Mingzhu won about five years ago, but Lei Jun may not lose. Dong Mingzhu won, according to Lei Jun's logic, Dong Mingzhu should be paid a dollar. It doesn't make much sense to give this dollar, because both companies have benefited a lot, saving more than 10 million advertising fees alone.
However, even if Lei Jun admitted the gambling of 65.438 billion yuan, Xiaomi could not lose to Gree. Because Xiaomi and Gree are both listed companies, it is impossible for listed companies to lose 654.38 billion yuan for no reason. Shareholders disagree, shareholders disagree, and the CSRC will not agree. Therefore, Lei Jun can only pay for himself. Of course, he certainly won't pay for it.
Finally, explain why Lei Jun may not lose. Because the current situation is obvious, the home appliance industry is not the traditional white electricity, but the transformation to AIoT and Internet home appliances. So from this perspective, the trend seen by Lei Jun is correct. Gree has to take this road even if it is mainly based on traditional manufacturing.
Therefore, judging from the development trend of home appliance business, Lei Jun's judgment is definitely no problem. Lei Jun lost and didn't lose. If there is this bet in the next five years, Gree will not necessarily win if it does not transform.
Therefore, this gamble is a win-win situation. Dong Mingzhu won the revenue and Lei Jun won the trend.
If it is really cashed, it would be a big mistake. Two entrepreneurs made a public bet in the media. One dollar, one billion, just words. They won't really sign a gambling contract. Without a contract, there would be no failure in performance. Gambling is also prohibited by the state. Both of them have made good advertisements for their own enterprises, and indeed both of them have been remembered by everyone for five or six years. The development speed of Xiaomi is really amazing, eight times, Gree increased by 60%, and both companies are developing well. Two people's personal behavior, two people go to the end. I wish the two entrepreneurs better and better development!
Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu lost the bet for more than a year. Why didn't they see the contract fulfilled?
In fact, we are very concerned about when the gambling contract between Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu can be fulfilled. It is said that Xiaomi's 10th anniversary speech will talk about the gambling contract with Dong Mingzhu. Naturally, some people think it is a gimmick. Let's review how it happened first.
Cause: 2065438+February 2, 2003, 65438+2003, at the 14th China Economic Person of the Year Award Ceremony, Dong Mingzhu and Lei Jun put forward a sky-high gamble of 65438 billion yuan. The content of the bet is: within five years, Xiaomi's turnover will exceed Gree's, and Dong Mingzhu said that if it exceeds, it will pay 65.438 billion yuan.
Results: On April 28th, 20 19, Gree Electric disclosed the annual report of 20 18, and realized the operating income of19865438+200 million yuan. Xiaomi's annual report of 20 18 realized operating income of174.9 billion yuan, obviously Lei Jun lost.
I only told the cause and effect of the matter, but I didn't have a deep intention to talk to you about it:
1. It can be said that from 20 13 to now, we discuss these two companies from time to time every year, which has virtually brought traffic and publicity to the two companies. There is no doubt that whether they win or lose, they all make money.
2. Actually, judging from our game, neither Lei Jun nor Dong Mingzhu took this matter as a real gambling contract at all. Both companies are rare excellent enterprises in China. They just say it verbally, which has no legal effect and does not have to bear the so-called legal responsibility.
3. Even if Lei Jun lost the bet, Dong Mingzhu wouldn't ask Lei Jun to compensate 654.38 billion yuan, and everyone would take this as a way to encourage each other.
In fact, we also know that the real reason for gambling at that time was the game between traditional enterprises and new Internet enterprises. This is not a game between Xiaomi and Gree, but more a feedback state of our current economic development. Although Xiaomi lost, it can't prove that the development of Internet companies failed. Gree is promoting intelligence and releasing mobile phones, which just proves that the current traditional industries need to be constantly updated and improved so as not to be eliminated by the times. This is what we need to know and understand. Keeping pace with the times is the focus of our enterprise development.
First of all, Lei Jun didn't agree to this bet at the award ceremony, but suggested betting a dollar. So from this perspective, they didn't reach an agreement.
For people like Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu, 65.438+0 billion is actually not a big price. Both of them are just a gamble or gambling game, and they are the judgment of the future and confidence in the development of their own enterprises.
The two are actually a collision between the traditional model and the Internet model, so the practical significance is actually greater than the financial significance. For Dong Mingzhu, even if he wins, it is impossible to ask Lei Jun to repay 65.438+0 billion yuan, which is a bit too nonsense. The whole network includes the public opinion environment, which is actually more like a state of mind.
At the same time, the gap between the two is now very small. We say that in the next five years, Gree is likely to be surpassed by Lei Jun's Xiaomi, because Xiaomi's revenue has doubled in five years and the growth is very rapid. Five years later, smart home systems include artificial intelligence and the Internet of Things. If it really breaks out, Xiaomi is likely to become the industry leader.
For Gree, it is actually experiencing great difficulties at present. On the one hand, air conditioning, as an absolute core competitiveness, has actually reached the ceiling. At the same time, it is not as good as domestic beauty groups in other household appliances.
Therefore, in the next five years, Xiaomi's development momentum will be better, and Gree will be a little shaky. Even if the air conditioner is hit hard, the foundation of the whole Gree will be unstable.
Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu will not keep their promises.
Gambling is illegal in our country. 10 yuan is as illegal as 10 billion yuan. If Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu had fulfilled their obligations, they wouldn't be like this now.
20 13 12 12 At the 14th China Economic Person of the Year Award Ceremony hosted by CCTV Financial Channel, Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu debated the competition between the Internet model and the traditional manufacturing model, and placed a sky-high bet of 10 billion yuan. Lei Jun said that in five years, Xiaomi's turnover will exceed Gree, and if it exceeds Gree, I hope Dong Mingzhu can compensate himself for one yuan. Dong Mingzhu domineering response, if more than willing to pay 65.438+0 billion.
In fact, for Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu, winning or losing this gambling game is not important, but more of an advertising effect. Shark Shark For so many years, many people and media have been talking about the gambling between Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu. It can be said that they have done a lot of advertisements for both companies. If they need to pay advertising fees, it is estimated to be 654.38 billion, which means that they have saved 654.38 billion advertising fees for the two companies in the past three years. Dong Mingzhu won, but not much. It is expected that Xiaomi's sales this year will exceed Gree's.
For Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu, the situation this year is very severe. Of course, no matter who wins the bet between Xiaomi and Gree, there are no losers between Gree and Xiaomi, only those of us who eat melons.
Stupid or not, the Monkey King Lei bet a dollar, and Miss Dong said she bet 654.38+0 billion.
Besides, gambling is illegal, and this gambling contract is not established.
Series 7: Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu's 1 100 million bet.
A person who pursues truth
2019165438+1October 6th
Lei Jun and Dong Mingzhu's billion-dollar bet lasted for five or six years. Let's look at the background and development process. As for whether or when the gambling contract is honored, it is impossible to talk about it.
Lei Jun: Dong Mingzhu called it "impossible" on the spot and responded: "Don't mention 1 yuan again. If you want to gamble, you will gamble 10 billion yuan. "
Lei Jun: I said, "You are made in China, and we are created in China, so 654.38 billion RMB, we will definitely win".
Lei Jun: Yes.
Lei Jun: Yes, she did.
Lei Jun: ... I thought about it temporarily. It's good to cooperate with CCTV, which also enlivens the atmosphere and creates hot spots. And I also believe that no matter how much I bet, I will win. After all, she has a low degree of economic freedom and no gambling burden. I didn't expect her to go straight to the billion.
Lei Jun: The next day, Li Wanqiang, co-founder and senior vice president of Xiaomi, issued a document saying that "Lei Dong Jun Pearl gambles 1 100 million, and the whole people win 100 Xiaomi 8."
Lei Jun: Li Wanqiang said, "I will definitely send the latest Xiaomi mobile phone, Xiaomi 8, maybe Xiaomi 9, maybe Xiaomi 7."
Lei Jun: I have to ask Li Wanqiang this question, so I can't answer it for him.
Lei Jun: At that time, the gambling contract was too hot, and I felt that public gambling was not very good.
Lei Jun: Of course. In February of 20 14, I said, "I think it's better to wait five years, and we'll know the result then."
Lei Jun: We are both very confident.
Lei Jun: According to the development momentum at that time, I was extremely confident.
Lei Jun: Impossible. What we do is the result of everyone's research and must be beneficial to the company. It is impossible to make these decisions because of personal gambling.
20 14 12 and Xiaomi12.66 million yuan invested in the United States may have nothing to do with the gambling contract, but Dong Mingzhu was still furious. At the annual meeting of entrepreneurs in China, Dong Mingzhu bluntly said: "Xiaomi is not a great company, and Xiaomi mobile phone is not a quality product. If Xiaomi joins hands with the United States, it is the combination of two thieves. " Thieves talk too much. Did you lose your temper?
Lei Jun: Crazy is not my style. I like to have more friends and fewer enemies. Moreover, I said at the annual meeting of entrepreneurs in China that'10 billion RMB was put forward by Dong Mingzhu, and I stressed that a dollar is none of my business', which was a step down for everyone.
This response was immediately pointed out by netizens as cheating, breach of contract and dirty.
Lei Jun: 2065438+February 9, 2005, Xiaomi's Shunwei Capital invested in the Internet home improvement company "Love Space", but it was not named "Xiaomi Home Improvement". Xiaomi later stressed in Weibo that Xiaomi would not consider entering the home improvement or real estate business. It is also a response to her "cheating" and did not give her a step.
Lei Jun: I also said that I hope everyone will not use "millet home decoration" when reporting "love space", which will make Xiaomi "very miserable".
Lei Jun: Yes.
Zhihui "and Phoenix Venture Capital Open Class. When talking about China manufacturing and patent protection, he even said, "I said Lei Jun was a thief, but he didn't dare to sue me. ".
Lei Jun: Hey, what she says is her business.
Lei Jun: I am more confident. At the annual meeting of 20 15 Xiaomi company, I promised that if I won the bet but Angel defaulted, I would pay 1 100 million out of my own pocket and distribute it to the employees of the company.
Lei Jun: During the two sessions from 2065438 to March 2006, Lei Jun smiled and said, "Ask Sister Dong." . Then Dong Mingzhu smiled and responded to Lei Jun: "We have not breached the contract!"
Lei Jun: I have confidence in 20 17.
Lei Jun: I have to ask her that. But I think the quality of millet is good.
Lei Jun: Yes, that's what she said.
Lei Jun: I disagree. Xiaomi is a light asset, but we have not made individuals rich and hurt more people.
..... a penny less is also a gap. I don't think this comparison is on a platform at all, because it is basically based on OEM. "
Lei Jun: 2065438+In April 2008, in an interview with CCTV Finance, she said that she would ask the National Audit Office to audit and evaluate the two companies. "This gambling date continues to be fulfilled and taken seriously."
Lei Jun: ... I lost. However, I waited for her to call, but she never called.
Lei Jun: ...
Lei Jun: ...
Lei Jun: ... She doesn't want it. Dong Mingzhu said at the 40th anniversary meeting of china association for quality: "Five years ago, Lei Jun and I gambled 10 billion, but others always cared about you 10 billion." ? I said I don't want it. I hope I will still gamble with Lei Jun in the next five years. "
Lei Jun: I don't know if she really wants it. She didn't call me anyway.
Lei Jun: In the long run, I have the confidence to gamble with her for another five years.
Lei Jun: ...
It was like this at the time. Lei Jun said I bet a dollar. Miss Dong said it was boring to bet a dollar. If you want to gamble, bet 65.438+0 billion yuan. Then Lei Jun didn't say anything. Do you think this bet is effective?
If Dong Mingzhu loses and fails to perform, it will be sprayed with rice flour.
Lei Jun said 1 yuan, Auntie said 1 billion, and then Lei Jun didn't speak ... The media speculation was very cool, so you said that the gambling contract was fulfilled, assuming it was legal. According to the contract law, Auntie sent an invitation of 1 100 million, but Lei Jun did not accept it, and the contract was not established! Assuming the contract is established, according to the contract law, Lei Jun should give Auntie 1 yuan!