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Comments:
He defrauded bank loans of 1 100 million yuan and was sentenced to life imprisonment in the first instance. The former super-rich man showed his true colors today.
Subtitle reminder: After Niu Fuzhong bought jade pieces, I helped to dress up as "jade clothes".
Comments:
A rich man's homemade clothes, five top domestic experts and an appraisal opinion with an estimated value of 2.4 billion yuan have also revealed their true colors today. What roles did a businessman, an overhead collector, a good man and many other swindlers and five antique experts play in his series of scams? News 1+ 1 today pays attention to the antique appraisal of "helping others to abuse"!
Commentator Bai:
Hello, audience and friends, welcome to the live news 1+ 1.
Today we are going to pay attention to a bizarre case worth 2.4 billion yuan. Before we talk about this, let me tell you something that makes you happy, that is,10.9 million rural primary school students in nine counties and districts of Ningxia received free lunches. Listen to how the children will treat such good news.
Reporter:
Beef vermicelli, do you think today's meal is delicious?
Student 1:
Delicious.
Reporter:
Can I eat at ordinary times (at home)
Student 1:
I can't.
Reporter:
Can I eat at school before?
Student 2:
I can't.
Reporter:
Is it the first time to eat today?
Student 2:
That's right.
Reporter:
Are you happy?
Student 2:
Excited.
White:
Ningxia is not a wealthy autonomous region, but people have made great efforts to solve the problem of free lunch for rural primary school students. When other rich provinces, municipalities and autonomous regions face the same problem, have you reflected on what you should do in the mirror of Ningxia? In fact, Ningxia will further promote this matter, because how much will it cost to fully roll it out by 20 12? Spend 300 million. 300 million yuan a year can solve the problem of free lunch for all rural primary school students in Ningxia Autonomous Region. This 300 million is really worth spending. If compared with the news events that we will pay attention to next today, we should list a figure, 2.4 billion, which is enough for rural primary school students in Ningxia to eat free lunch for eight years. However, this 2.4 billion yuan is a scam, with the participation of top cultural relics appraisal experts. Come on, let's pay attention to this matter together.
Comments:
Donghua Jinta is located in Guang 'anmen Hutong, Beijing, with a superior geographical position. Unlike now, before 2008, it was also called "the first unfinished building in Beijing" by the media. It was Xie Genrong, a former super-rich, collector and compassionate, who built this "Beijing's first unfinished building". Now he is being held in Beijing No.1 Detention Center. From June 5438 to February 2009, Xie Genrong was found guilty of loan fraud by first instance, sentenced to life imprisonment, deprived of political rights for life, and confiscated all personal property.
At present, Xie Gennong's case is still in the second trial stage, but today's big news is related to this case. It is these two gold and jade clothes collected by Xie Genrong and valued by five domestic experts at 2.4 billion yuan, all of which are prototypes. More than a dozen companies have spent tens of millions renting offices in Diaoyutai Hotel, claiming to have three sports cars and a Rolls-Royce, and spent billions on antiques alone. Xie Genrong, former chairman and president of the board of directors of Watsons Group, is a well-known rich man. Since 2003, he has frequently appeared on various rich lists in China, with assets of 700 million. Now it seems that Xie Genrong has nothing to recommend to make a fortune except cheating.
"Legal Evening News" reporter Fu Zhong:
In 2000, he got a real estate project named Donghua Golden Tower. At that time, the matching price he agreed with another company was 320 million yuan, but because Watsons Group itself had no economic strength and the registered capital was also made, this 320 million yuan was a huge sum of money for him, which was simply unbearable. In order to realize this project, he thought of a fake loan.
Comments:
Borrowing from the bank is also the beginning of Xie Genrong's deception. At the end of 1999, in order to win the title of Donghua Jinta in Xuanwu District, Beijing, Xie Genrong had to pay a transfer fee of 320 million yuan and subsequent development funds. In September 2009, Xie Genrong signed 566 "False Individual Housing Loan Contracts" with seven branches of China Construction Bank by using false confirmation documents, and * * * defrauded loans of 670 million yuan, with 550 million yuan still unable to repay. In this process, faced with the reality that huge loans cannot be repaid, Yan, president of Beijing Construction Bank Economic and Technological Development Zone Branch, and Zhao Feng, vice president, participated in sponsoring Xie Genrong to make false statements and issue an acceptance bill of 456 million yuan.
Buying luxury cars, luxury houses, gambling, buying antiques, eating, drinking, having fun and other entertainment, this is Xie Genrong's life after bearing huge debts. According to his account, he spent nearly 500 million yuan on loans, most of which were spent on rampant personal profligacy.
White:
In such a cheating process, several roles played a very, very important role. The first is to popularize common sense. What happened to the golden thread and jade clothes? Think about a gold thread and a silver thread jade dress, which add up to a valuation of 2.4 billion. Come on, Ma Weidou, help us popularize this common sense.
"The most advanced mourning of the ancients is a golden thread. On 1968, Wang Jing of Zhongshan, Liu Sheng and his wife, Dou Wan, were the most famous jade clothes, which were reported to the police at home. Among them, there are 2,498 pieces of jade for clothing in Liu Shengyu, about1100g of gold thread, 2 160 pieces of jade for clothing in Yu Dou and about 700g of gold thread. Its luxury is amazing. "
This is common sense in the past, and the following is a very realistic reminder. Please note that this is written by Ma Weidou. "That at present, the golden thread has been enjoyed by people. For decades, I have seen all kinds of jade clothes, and every holder speaks brilliantly, and it seems that they are not afraid of decapitation. If you issue a disapproval, the holder will say that an expert has issued a certificate. The country has trained experts for a lifetime, but can it still be blind? " Let me talk about Mr. Ma Weidou's last sentence "misunderstanding". If many experts don't mind and just want to make money, then the misunderstanding must be certain.
In the process of such a scam, we will find such an interesting phenomenon. In the current legal environment, it is really getting harder and harder to mix small liars. So many swindlers think, then I might as well turn myself into a big liar, and it is not easy to turn a fake into a real one, because a fake is a fake after all, so there must be something real in this process, such as some really well-known antique appraisers, to participate in this event. Look at these celebrities, Mr. Shi Shuqing who died in 2007. He used to be a researcher at the Museum of Chinese History, vice chairman of the National Cultural Relics Appraisal Committee, and president of the China Collectors Association. Yang Boda, former vice president of the Palace Museum, is a famous jade expert. Wang Wenxiang, director of the appraisal and evaluation committee of world cultural relics and artworks. Li Jinsong, former Secretary General of China Gemstone Association. Yang fuxu, director of the gem appraisal center of Peking university. what do you think? Is this name loud enough? When such a sign is put in front of my eyes, I always feel that I can pick up a stone on the road and tell me that it is worth 100 million yuan, and I will believe it. Of course, I believe that without such great persecution, banks will be in trouble. A turning point in this matter is that the bank has realized that there is something wrong with the entrepreneur, so the person in charge of the bank went directly to the entrepreneur to talk about the situation. Unexpectedly, after talking for a while, the entrepreneur showed them Jin Yu clothes and Yin Yu clothes, and then provided them with the names of these five experts, saying that they had been appraised, worth 2.4 billion. The bank immediately believed it, so it gave them a loan of 50 million+450 million, and how much did these experts get? Hundreds of thousands. As you can see, hundreds of thousands of people put them in their pockets, but in the end, the whole loss of the country is 50 million+450 million, which is a strict formula that cannot be equated. Ok, let's stop this process.
Comments:
Shi Shuqing, former researcher of China History Museum, vice chairman of National Cultural Relics Appraisal Committee and president of China Collectors Association. Yang Boda, former vice president of the Palace Museum, is a famous jade expert. Wang Wenxiang, director of the appraisal and evaluation committee of world cultural relics and artworks. Li Jinsong, former Secretary General of China Gemstone Association. Yang fuxu, director of the gem appraisal center of Peking university. It is these five well-known experts who, through the glass, valued two self-made so-called golden wisps of jade clothes at 2.4 billion yuan.
In the indictment of the First Branch of Beijing State Procuratorate, we saw the testimony of witness Niu Fuzhong. "'Jade Clothes' is a string of jade clothes given to him by Niu Fuzhong and Xie Genrong, which is also worthless. Xie Genrong kept looking for experts to identify and evaluate' Yu Yi', Niu Fuzhong looked for Wang Wenxiang, and Wang Wenxiang looked for Yang Boda, Yang Fuxu and others. Later, these five experts wrote to Yu Yi, clarifying that the estimated price was 2.4 billion pounds. Xie Genrong gave experts hundreds of thousands of evaluation fees. " How can the top five experts in China take a fancy to an artificial gold and jade dress? It is this still controversial appraisal that actually helped Xie Genrong get a huge loan from the bank.
(telephone interview)
Yang Boda, former vice president of the Palace Museum and a famous jade expert:
2.4 billion, which is an unprecedented and cheap new product. After a few minutes, I walked around and took a look, but I didn't take it out of the glass cabinet.
Reporter:
Didn't you ask for it?
Yang Boda:
This is not what I asked for either, because it is inconvenient to see through the glass. Let's take a look together. After that, you have to sign, sign and leave after dinner.
White:
He is an expert and a good match. At that time, everything was put in such a glass cabinet, and then several experts made a big turn in a short time, and then there were some details. For example, Li Jinsong said in an interview that the great authority Shi Lao (Shi Shuqing) said that this value was very high, and what Shi Lao said respected people. Then Yang Fuxu, director of the Gem Appraisal Center of Peking University, said that Shi Shuqing is recognized as the boss, and we will do whatever Shi Lao says. Then they all signed their names on paper worth 2.4 billion yuan, and in the words of experts just now, they ate a meal and left. However, the result of such a story is very remarkable. Later, many people asked, didn't you look carefully? Looking at two of the answers, Yang Fuxu said, "It's not that I can't refute, but that I didn't consider refuting ... decently ..." Li Jinsong said, "He (Shi Shuqing) is an authority. I always believe that our views are just references and have no legal responsibility. "
I want to give you a detail here. Of the five top appraisers, only one has passed away, and that is Mr. Shi Shuqing. So during the interview, the other four experts all pushed this obligation to Shi Lao, so Ma Weidou also felt a little unkind. How could he go there to push it?
But on the other hand, it's not kind to push or not. In this process, it is not impossible to refute, but face is regarded as an evasive speech. I don't think we can take out the hidden rules in daily life under such circumstances as something that seems to be true, a rule, or even something that can shirk responsibility. Hidden rules are hidden rules, and we don't like them. It is even more lame to turn their hobbies into clear rules. Speaking of saving face, in fact, we sometimes face the elderly. The youngest of these five old gentlemen is over 70 years old this year. It stands to reason that we shouldn't say a lot of extremely harsh words, but in the face of such absurd things, we want to say that we have a little disrespect for the elderly. This kind of "respect" is the dignity of academics and the dignity that everyone should have as a scholar. In addition, it has brought great losses to the country.
However, what is their position? Let's take a look at what they said in the interview these two days. Li Jinsong said: "I think banks are also very confused. How can you trust him so easily? Hey, I am very sad about the losses caused by this incident to the country. " Wang Wenxiang said: "We (related experts) are not in danger, because gold is valuable and jade is priceless. We don't know that he will take this product to borrow money. " Yang fuxu said, "who said it was fake? Who can draw a conclusion about this work? " Shi Shuqing's widow said: "Appraisal is a process of superstitious knowledge and gradual awakening. According to the literature and technology mastered at that time, no one can see that it was true ten years ago, and there will be new understanding after ten years. " However, this jade coat and silver jade coat finally bought some jade pieces to string together. I'm afraid it's really ridiculous to reach 2.4 billion. How many old gentlemen can be said to be prestigious quasi-experts who are smashing their apprentices' rice bowls? Because you have done such a ridiculous thing, the rest of your disciples can't believe it. fish begins to stink at the head, in the process of our antique appraisal, has now become such a ridiculous scene that everyone knows nothing about it.
But when I came here, I was thinking, I just told you one detail. At that time, the bank became suspicious and came to talk to him. Then, after he produced such a golden coat and appraisal certificate, he began to lend him money. What role did these old gentlemen play in all the loan fraud? Should I bear some legal responsibilities? Let's hear what the legal experts have to say.
(telephone interview)
Xu Xilong, lawyer of Dacheng Law Firm:
In this case, the expert didn't know in advance that Xie wanted to use the evaluation speech as a tool to defraud the loan, so the expert didn't understand the purpose of his law-abiding crime at that time, so you can't say what crime he committed. I don't think it will break the law, so I shouldn't bear this criminal responsibility. This is the professional ethics of experts. If you evaluate him by 1 100 million yuan or 3 billion yuan, I am afraid it is within the discretion of experts, because there is no same market scale to weigh.
White:
After listening to the expert's words, my heart is a little cold, which means that we can only have some saliva on the moral level to make several old experts feel better, but I'm afraid the past will pass. So is it really possible for this thing to pass? At present, there are many such absurd things in our antique cultural relics appraisal market. Come on, let's go deeper.
Explanation:
Let's temporarily separate this ridiculous marriage and see how many expensive fakes are still popular around us. At present, the "King of Pots" in the Southern Song Dynasty Imperial Kiln Museum is being severely questioned. Some experts identified it as a first-class cultural relic, while others claimed it was a fake.
(DV shooting)
Rong Shi, commentator of Southern Song Dynasty Imperial Kiln Museum:
You can hardly find such a large-scale Changsha kiln pot.
Reporter:
Rare.
Rong Shi:
Right, so Ming Wang Hu, wouldn't you say so?
Yang Jingrong, a researcher at the Palace Museum:
We conclude that it is basically an imitation produced in ancient times after the 1990s.
Comments:
Treasure or fake? Zhang Pusheng, a researcher at Nanjing Museum, and Zhu, a researcher at Zhejiang Institute of Cultural Relics and Archaeology, and other four experts were respected as the founders by academic circles. Another expert, Feng, is from the Palace Museum as well as the doubters.
Feng, a researcher at the Palace Museum:
I didn't sign it. You may need a certificate afterwards, and then find a few people. It doesn't matter to me.
Comments:
Whether it is a treasure or a fake, there should be huge economic benefits behind the war of words. At present, on the one hand, there is a growing collection fever, on the other hand, there are endless experts. Is the identification of cultural relics in China true or false, based on vision and knowledge, or on qualifications and courage?
China famous porcelain research expert:
At present, the basis is to find three or five experts to watch together, and then the normal elders should be identified first. Generally speaking, it is determined by this level of authority in our industry. That is to say, if the teacher says (yes) yes, individual students also say (yes) yes, that's it. There are very few experts in the same group.
Comments:
Scientific authority and humanistic appraisal, why can they be hospitable in the appraisal industry? Why can top experts become the rules of the appraisal world by seeing, touching, feeling and learning? In this respect, even Liao Maolin, director of Sichuan Maolin Museum, suffered a big loss.
Liao Maolin, curator of Sichuan Maolin Museum:
The expert is right, I will accept it according to this standard. At this time, the experts finally came back (look again). My own research is fake, relatively fake, and now millions are gone.
Comments:
As a big country of cultural relics, China's cultural relics appraisal qualification certification system has not yet been established, but many appraisal experts have gained great benefits from one appraisal movement after another.
Tan Ping, Director of Social Cultural Relics Department of National Cultural Heritage Administration:
Because the supervision mechanism of appraisal qualification certification and appraisal behavior has not been established, many so-called appraisal institutions and experts issue irresponsible appraisal certificates casually in order to seek illegal economic benefits.
If the festival:
Someone is asking, is it really so difficult to verify the identity of cultural relics in today's advanced technology? Why are various scientific tests such as warm luminescence and chemical composition analysis difficult to popularize in fact? Why can a large number of fakes be confused in the collection market? Why can there be a strange phenomenon in the appraisal field that a homemade gold thread and jade garment can be valued at 2.4 billion?
Zhang Yanyan, Staff of Zhongbowen Cultural Inspection and Appraisal Center:
Experts say I say it's from the Song Dynasty, some say it's from the Ming Dynasty and some say it's from the Qing Dynasty. It depends on the experts themselves.
White:
In many news events, we can always hear the saying that we all have our own characteristic faces in the end, but sometimes we can't keep our academic bottom line just for such a face, and we will always lose face in the end. I think four of these five people are still alive. I'm afraid this is a very, very humiliating thing for their academic life and should be a warning to their children. However, in this process, there are still some details that I can't understand. For example, an it expert used the word "academic freedom" in an interview, which I think is almost the biggest blow to the word "academic freedom".
In addition, in the process of being interviewed in this way, and after things came out, it seems that there is not much truth. Some experts said that they only received three or five thousand yuan, some experts said that they received ten thousand yuan, and some experts said that he received the most. In fact, when we look back at these experts, we still quote a passage from Ma Weidou, "Most of our experts depend on the unit. The greater the reputation of the unit, the greater the value of experts. After leaving the official position, many experts are ordinary people, so the expert introduction says that they are experts in a certain museum, not an expert in a certain one. This expert who has overdrawn the company's credit for many years is still wandering around today. He can't help much or others, so he can get food, drink and respect. This' respect' should be quoted. In the past, the most valuable dignity of experts was not technology, and China literati always adhered to this criterion; Pay thousands of appraisal fees today, experts, experts, alas! "
This point should also be discussed with Mr. Ma Weidou. Now sometimes it's not just a few thousand dollars, maybe just tens of thousands of dollars, and so on. Is conscience really worth appreciating or not? Come, listen to the experts in our industry's comments on such a strange phenomenon.
(telephone interview)
Long Can, a senior observer in the field of cultural relics:
Why are the so-called experts and experts who identify gentlemen in China always reluctant to formally ask this question? At present, the development of instrument appraisal is very slow in China, especially in the Forbidden City, especially in many so-called large museums. Even though we spent a lot of money on such instruments, we don't even have a basic database now. Because of these masters, he firmly grasped his right to speak, because if the instrument is used in large quantities, studied and applied in large quantities, it will lose its right to speak in the market. What does it mean to lose the market voice? For example, they can earn tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands by going to a cave now. In the future, when a large number of instruments are involved and the capital is very low, you say that it is only a few thousand dollars to identify one piece, and people "fool" the actual situation. Who wants to bother experts again, and it's not 100% guaranteed?
White:
There are two more details to be provided. First, experts say that in the process of cultural relics or antiques appraisal, the so-called experts collect money according to the final appraisal 1% or 5%. So we can imagine that this encourages many experts to evaluate the value of this thing higher, but the more money you get, the more selfish you are. For example, if this thing is fake, it may be only 100 yuan, and he will not make any money. If you want to say this thing is good, it's unconscionable. 200 thousand, 5%, how much, a lot, that's terrible. Also, in fact, it's like walking a pit in the market now. Sometimes in order to identify a thing, find a so-called industry expert. He called several old buddies together and took the money away. There may be something that many people forgot, so this is really scary.
Let's see what some of our friends in Weibo wrote on it. Wei Yingjie said to this matter, "Cultural relics experts play with personal reputation, and the role of experts is not as good as that of machines." Yes, now everyone advocates using more scientific things for this kind of appraisal, but if you are really scientific, won't people's jobs be ruined? But we must break such an insecure rice bowl, otherwise the rice bowl of social integrity will be broken. "Peer evaluation is the most stringent standard in academic circles. If peer reviews become friendship evaluations, related industries can only be more bound by laws and regulations. " However, China's laws and regulations on the identification of cultural relics and antiques are not perfect. "At present, the important deficiency of the evaluation and insurance industry is that there is no perfect law to re-evaluate expert appraisal. Antiques are never fake, and experts must participate in making and selling fakes. " In other words, he hopes to take some preventive measures at the legal level.
At the end of today's goal, I can make another hypothesis. In fact, when this hypothesis appeared in my mind, I felt cold and sweaty all over, and then it appeared. If this entrepreneur is not a waste, after applying such a trap and these experts finally got a loan from the bank, his business is extremely good, and he finally became a person who buried all his bad past. Now that he has this official confirmation, can he still get various awards on the market? Then we will think, are there really some original sins that we cheated? Will there be other similar incidents? Come here today.
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