In fact, H3C and Huawei have the same meaning. H3C would have been acquired by Huawei if it hadn't been opposed by the United States. At first, H3C and Huawei had similar command lines. Huawei's routers were equipped with H3C switches, and it was not until H3C was acquired by HP that Huawei began to manufacture its own high-end switches.
After the separation of H3C and Huawei, H3C has made great progress in the field of enterprise network, and is gradually getting rid of Huawei's shadow. At present, H3C and Huawei have fierce competition in the field of enterprise network. After Ziguang entered H3C, H3C also gradually entered the collection of three major operators. It seems that H3C and Huawei are competing in the enterprise network, and H3C is gradually eroding the share of Huawei operators. Does this mean that H3C can surpass Huawei in the field of data communication?
Of course, this is not the case. Compared with hardware, the shortcomings of H3C are too obvious.
First of all, Huawei has accumulated more data communication solutions than H3C, especially in high-end routers. This H3C is far less than Huawei. This reason is also because Huawei has accumulated too much in routers. From chips to functions, H3C's capabilities are far less than Huawei's. Especially in the field of core router, Huawei's core router is already the first in the world, and H3C still has a long way to go.
This reason is related to the chip. The earliest H3C switch used ASIC chip, which is no problem in the switch. For H3C, it should be no problem to change the appearance of the switch and sell it directly as a router under different names. After all, the traffic of enterprises is relatively small. However, with the development of enterprise cloudization, the traffic of enterprises is increasing, and H3C has been involved in the field of operators, so ASIC architecture can no longer be used in routers. H3C has been involved in NP-based routers for a short time, and it is normal that its ability in this respect is not as good as Huawei's.
Secondly, Huawei's ability in the overall solution of data communication far exceeds H3C. Huawei is now relying less and less on single computers in the enterprise field, but on solutions to hit the market, which makes H3C very embarrassed. Because in the enterprise bidding, the capability of Huawei's scheme was written as a technical parameter, H3C was very uncomfortable, and could not meet the needs of customers in the industry, so it could only spell the single machine price.
Therefore, H3C should really attach importance to industry solutions, make use of its own advantages to promote its own industry solution capabilities, avoid going it alone, and develop its own leading technology capabilities, which is beneficial to H3C.
Finally, H3C should really pay attention to products, and can't always win projects by packaging products or changing official website parameters, which is not good for H3C. If H3C wants to surpass Huawei, it must participate in the cake of operators. Operators want to collect and compete with each other.
In the past, H3C actually brought a bad atmosphere to the enterprise market. Switches are packaged and renamed as routers. In order to bid for official website, the parameters were changed casually, and various functions were reported casually by some testing institutions, which led to the whole enterprise network starting to change the parameters and practicing fraud, which was very bad. H3C needs to face up to its own capabilities in order to surpass Huawei in the future.
H3C personally doesn't think it can surpass Huawei in an all-round way, but it is possible to surpass Huawei in some fields, provided that it can continue to develop and master core technologies.
1, let's look at the origin of H3C.
H3C, commonly known as H3C, actually originated from Huawei. This is a joint venture between Huawei and 3Com Company of the United States, which was established specifically to compete with Cisco in overseas markets. Its core business used to be one of Huawei's main businesses: communication equipment. The initial core personnel, including some patented technologies, also came from Huawei.
However, due to various factors, Huawei sold it, and then H3C was successively owned by 3com and HP, and finally acquired by Ziguang in 20 15. At this point, H3C began a new journey.
2. The overall development of H3C in recent years.
After the merger of H3C (now called "Xinhua III") into Ziguang, it is equivalent to having the foundation of Huawei in the past and the background of Ziguang's state-owned enterprises, and its overall strength has greatly increased. In recent years, Ziguang Group has been laying out the technology industry. In addition to H3C in the communication field, there are also manufacturers in the semiconductor field, such as Spreadtrum Chip, Ziguang Storage and Changjiang Storage. In this way, the combined operation of H3C and other brother enterprises of Ziguang is equivalent to another Huawei.
At present, the core business of H3C is still concentrated in the communication field, and its product lines include switches, routers, servers, storage, cloud computing and big data. Most of these businesses compete directly with Huawei. There are rumors in the industry that Huawei sometimes has to beat around the bush when facing this friend, which shows that Huasan's business ability is still ok.
Therefore, if H3C can strengthen these core businesses, it is possible to catch up with Huawei in this field. Of course, the premise is to work hard on research and development and have core technologies and products independently developed.
It is impossible to completely surpass Huawei.
As for surpassing Huawei, it is obviously impossible. Now the whole Ziguang is not as good as Huawei, let alone a subsidiary of Ziguang. Now Huawei has too much technical strength, not to mention 80,000 authorized patents, even the current business system is not comparable to H3C.
In terms of business system, Huawei now has not only operator business, but also consumer business and enterprise business. Consumer business is simply not something H3C can catch up with. With the world's second largest mobile phone, all kinds of intelligent terminal equipment, all kinds of self-developed chips (Kirin, Ba Long, etc. ), including the operating system that will be fully launched in the future, and the leading 5G technology. None of these businesses and product lines exist in China, and it is impossible to develop in the short term.
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Therefore, it is almost impossible for H3C to completely catch up with Huawei. As for Ziguang Group, I personally hope to catch up with Huawei in the future. After all, this group has entered the semiconductor field for many years, and its development will help to enhance China's overall strength in the semiconductor field.
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I don't think it's possible. The reason for this is the following：
H3C is called Huasan in the following.
1 and H3C are far less extensive than Huawei.
H3C's core business has been around the enterprise network, which started much earlier than Huawei, and it is bound to establish its own benchmark image in the industry. However, in recent years, Huawei has also begun to exert its strength in the enterprise network, and later came from behind. At the same time, Huawei has several business segments that Huawei does not have, such as carrier business, which is what we often say, such as China Telecom and China Mobile. You should know that these are big customers, and every tender is tens of billions of heroic, as well as the dock that is in full swing today.
2. Corporate culture
Huawei pays attention to wolf culture, and its internal management and promotion mechanism are strict. At the same time, everyone has a strong sense of struggle and danger. Huawei's high salary and high year-end bonus are also well known in the industry. Talent is the foundation of enterprise development. Huawei has its own unique management logic and methods in this respect, which has laid a solid foundation for the company's development. In addition, H3C has been acquired by Ziguang. It can be said that H3C has gradually integrated more state-owned enterprise backgrounds and enterprise crisis awareness.
To sum up, H3C can't catch up with Huawei at present.
In the field of enterprise network, H3C has certain advantages. As early as 2003, H3C began to be an enterprise network. Huawei didn't have an enterprise network at that time. Because of the restriction of non-competition agreement, Huawei didn't have an enterprise network at that time, and it was specialized as an operator. Later, H3C was acquired by HP, and Huawei began to develop enterprise networks. As the saying goes, "Ginger is still old and spicy".
H3C's "Rough Life"
It can be seen that the major owners are: Huawei, 3com, Hewlett-Packard and Ziguang.
Advantages of H3C
Huawei ranks first in the world in the field of operators, especially in 5G networks in recent years. In recent years, it has achieved great success in developing enterprise networks and terminal markets.
The advantage of H3C lies in the enterprise network. In the year when Huawei and H3C separated, they signed a non-competition agreement, so Huawei can't set foot in the enterprise network, which means that Huawei specializes in operators and H3C specializes in the enterprise network. Later, H3C was acquired by HP, and Huawei vigorously developed the enterprise network, which was about 20 1 1 year later than H3C. In the past, the backbone networks of public security and other state departments were basically H3C, and these fashionable products were gradually replaced.
In short, it is impossible for H3C to surpass Huawei. In addition to the terminal market, there is a big gap between operators. In the field of enterprise network, Huawei has also made great progress in recent years. With the upgrading of equipment, many enterprises and government agencies have replaced H3C and Cisco routers and switches with Huawei's data communication products.
Some people say that H3C is insufficient, after all, it was established in 2003; Huawei, a company founded in 1987, has more market, background and technology.
However, it can be seen in the IDC organization ranking of enterprise storage market in 20 19. In 20 19, Huawei's shipment share in the enterprise storage market reached 29.5%, ranking first, and H3C 1 1.8% ranked second, with a year-on-year increase of 3.8%, rising from the third place to the second place.
It seems to have achieved rapid success in other fields with an unimaginable progress.
But you also need to know-
H3C has a full line of routers and Ethernet switch products, focusing on the development of network security, cloud storage, cloud desktop, hardware server, WLAN, SOHO and software management system.
Huawei has not only developed in this respect. As can be seen from Huawei's 20 19 annual report, Huawei is currently engaged in three major businesses: consumer business, enterprise business and operator business. Especially in the consumer business, also known as mobile terminals, Huawei has always occupied a very important position.
The main fields of H3C are still different from those of Huawei. Huawei is more comprehensive, and its annual technical investment determines its development, which is really incomparable to H3C.
Can it reach the status of Huawei? I think it's difficult, but it's not without opportunities. However, in today's society, with the rapid development of enterprises, are there more emerging enterprises challenging them? The fierce competition in the market may also create a high wall beyond Huawei.
The so-called H3C actually refers to Xinhua III, a subsidiary of Ziguang Group, which is closely related to Huawei, and we will talk about it in detail later.
Let's get back to this topic first. "Is it possible for H3C to surpass Huawei in the future?" Actually, you can't ask that question. How can unicorns compare with Big Macs? If we say that the comprehensive strength, Xinhua San is definitely not as good as Huawei. This needs no explanation.
Even in many segments, the two are not very comparable, such as mobile phones, PCs and other hardware, as well as chip research and development. However, if we talk about network services, the two are worlds apart. Huawei has more strength in the operator part, but Xinhua Sanye has more advantages in the intranet part.
Let's talk about the relationship between Huawei and Xinhua San. The names of these two companies sound very similar. A long time ago ~ had a non-competition agreement with Xinhua San, stipulating that Huawei would not set foot in corporate networks for a certain period of time. At that time, Huawei itself was the controlling party of Xinhua San, with 5 1% of the shares and 3COM accounting for 49%, so Xinhua San was also called Huawei 3COM.
In the end, Huawei and 3COM exchanged roles, with Huawei accounting for 49% and 3COM accounting for 565,438+0%, becoming the controlling party, but it is customary to let Huawei 3COM. A few years later, 3COM completely acquired that share of Huawei, holding 65,438+000% shares of Xinhua San. Of course, people used to call it Huawei 3COM in name, and 3COM died later. In the end, Xinhua San was acquired by HP and 3COM. At this time, it was renamed Huasan. At the end of the story, Huasan's foreign investment background is really mixed, and it was finally acquired by Ziguang Group with 565,438+0% shares. At this time, Ziguang became the controlling shareholder of Huasan, and at this time Huasan was officially renamed Xinhua San.
So when it comes to Huawei and Xinhua San, there is still some origin. In terms of business, Huawei did not set foot in the enterprise network for a long time because it signed a non-competition agreement at first, leaving this part of the market to Xinhua Wei. Therefore, in terms of enterprise network, Xinhua Sanxian still has a relatively large first-Mover advantage over Huawei.
It should be that in 2003, Xinhua San started to do the business of enterprise network, while Huawei started to do the business of enterprise network only at 1 1. Naturally, there is still a certain gap between the two.
However, we can also see that in recent years, Huawei has made great efforts in many fields, such as chips, smart homes, and the Internet of Things. In terms of enterprise network, Huawei is also trying to lay out its own ecology, and Li Nv can use his network services and hardware equipment to exert greater synergy, so the gap between the two is further narrowing.
But on the other hand, the United States has given Huawei such a crackdown, and it has United the entire pro-American forces to put pressure on Huawei. This will have a lasting impact on Huawei. Whether Huawei can continue to maintain its current strong development momentum in the future depends on Huawei's tenacity.
Hua San is a conscientious farmer. He has planted his land well. When the fruit is ripe, naturally someone will eat it. Do what you should do every year according to the rules, so that you can have the capital to survive.
For most users and enterprises, the technologies and products of H3C and Huawei are not much different, but their brand awareness is different.
At present, Huawei's market share is about 40% (mid-to-high-end market) and Huasan's is about 30% (low-end market). At present, the cakes in the market are divided in an orderly way, and everyone does not interfere with each other.
Finally, without the powerful power of the third party, it will not fall for decades!
A few days ago (April 1 day), IDC, a market research organization, released the market share data of enterprise storage in China in the fourth quarter of 20 19. Huawei's 20 19 enterprise storage market share reached 29.5%, ranking first; The second change in shipment is H3C.
H3C and Huawei's "Origin"
In fact, H3C was originally independent from Huawei, but now it is two different companies. H3C was formerly a joint venture between Huawei and 3com, a well-known American company.
In the following equity changes, 3com also acquired all the shares, thus changing its name to H3C, namely Hanghuasan Communication Technology Co., Ltd. Later, Huawei intended to acquire H3C, but it was unsuccessful. Later, H3C was acquired by Hewlett-Packard Company, and since then, it has distanced itself from Huawei.
Similarities and differences between H3C and Huawei.
H3C mainly provides research, development, production, sales and services of IT infrastructure products and solutions. Its competition with Huawei is mainly concentrated in the field of data communication. As for services such as servers, storage and security, they were actually added after HP acquired H3C, but there was no improvement.
Huawei is familiar to many people. Huawei is a leading provider of information and communication technology (ICT) solutions in the world, focusing on the field of ICT. It contains three main business modules.
Speaking of this, H3C has advantages in the field of enterprise network. This should start with the meeting when H3C was founded. Some people say that H3C and Huawei had a competition agreement at that time, that is, Huawei mainly focused on carrier business, while H3C mainly belonged to enterprise network. Since then, H3C has also made great progress in the field of enterprise network. H3C switch devices are quite common in the access layer of enterprise networks and some large networks.
"This is the same root", but H3C has robbed Huawei's market instead, which is a bit annoying! But overall, H3C is not as good as Huawei except that it has advantages in the enterprise network market. Huawei has accumulated more data communication solutions than H3C. Now Huawei is not just fighting alone in the enterprise field, but relying on integrated solutions to enhance its advantages.
It is a false proposition for H3C to surpass Huawei, because the overall business scale of H3C is obviously limited, but frankly, H3C has advantages in some fields. The future depends on the overall operation, strategic planning and market changes of H3C.
Both companies have worked. Tell me my opinion.
First of all, the business areas of the two companies are similar, but the volume difference is one order of magnitude, which determines that Xinhua San Box and Huawei are not comparable in many aspects.
Secondly, whether it is beyond or not is related to the strategic choice and market investment strategy of the two companies. It is not excluded that Xinhua San will surpass Huawei in a single field. After all, no matter how big Huawei is, it is impossible to cover all markets, so there are still differentiated markets.
Thirdly, the two companies have deep roots, and in some markets, the possibility of joint survival is not ruled out. And the choice of customers determines that there will not be only one supplier. Therefore, as long as it is properly managed, the long-term coexistence of the two companies is a high probability event.
From a technical point of view alone. Many high-end business functions of Shenzhou III have not reached an agreement with * * * at all. At first, HuaSan couldn't solve it, and even calling 400 couldn't solve it. Replace Huawei's equipment in an angry manner and solve it instantly. This is a technical level.
Besides, at the business level. Hua 3 focuses on simple data communication. Huawei's industrial chain is bigger than his. According to this level, Huawei actually hangs Hua 3.
And the enterprise's wolf China 3 can't do it.