Thank you, Chairman. Hello! Our view is that only those who have things can have a place. First of all, we should have a correct understanding of the debate. What is "promising"? "promising" means artificial. Generally, it is used to describe a person with good moral quality, rich knowledge, hard work, full play of talents and achievement. And "you" refers to status, which can be political and legal status, economic status, social status, status in people's minds and so on. This position is by no means a universal social role for everyone, so it is meaningful for us to discuss position and absence.
The reason why Confucius and Sima Qian can enjoy the reputation of thousands of years and occupy a place in the history of China and even the world is precisely because they edited immortal works such as Spring and Autumn Annals and Historical Records and showed great achievements. Wang Xuan and Yuan Longping not only made great achievements, but also enjoyed a high social status, which was widely expected and worthy of the name.
So, why do talents have a place? We will discuss it from the following three aspects:
First, from a theoretical perspective, "you" and "you" are not contradictory. This means starting from a "promising" starting point, reaching "a position", and then making certain achievements in this position, so as to reach a higher level of "a position". This is a development process of periodic rise and qualitative change. But "promising" is the initial starting point, at least the premise and the most important step of this series of processes. Because there is no "for", any "bit" is out of the question. Therefore, "promising" is the premise of "having a position" and the foundation of the development and progress of human society.
Second, from a realistic point of view: in today's society, there are many people who have made some achievements from scratch, and there are many ordinary people who have done extraordinary things. At the same time, it is not only the need of justice and fairness, but also the need of the sustained and healthy development of our cause. It conforms to the principle of distribution for more work and fairness, openness and justice, and has won the hearts of the people and public opinion.
Thirdly, in a social sense, only talents can be employed, which is a benign talent appointment mechanism, which is conducive to the use of talents, and people can make the best use of their talents. At the same time, it is also a healthy public opinion orientation: it is conducive to guiding and inspiring people to make progress, make progress and make efforts to make a difference.
To sum up, "being" is the external factor, "being" is the essence, and "being" is the basis of the development and progress of human society.
Since the rolling wheel of civilization has carried us to this height of democracy and equality, those who have no status but work hard with their own hands will eventually have their own place. As for those who "do not seek their own government" and make up for others, even if they have status, they will not last long and will eventually be eliminated by history. A temporary position is not a real position. Actually, it doesn't matter whether there is a position or not. It is important to take the first step of "doing". We must strive for "a position" with "promising". If you complain about waiting blindly, it will be farther and farther away from the "position". As the saying goes, settle for second best, netting is the best. Finally, I sincerely hope that everyone will remember this sentence: people who have no place can do it, and people who have something will eventually get their place!
Supplement to the second debate:
Because of the deception and unfairness in today's society, it may be a little difficult to simply distinguish the relationship between you and your position. But "stones from other mountains can attack jade." We now have three such stones to clear the layers of fog on the other debater's head:
The first stone comes from the real and objective nature. "Natural selection, survival of the fittest" is a universal law of nature. None of the monkeys were "lucky" and were born with the Monkey King, were they? A king is a hero who stands out from the crowd after countless battles. "Love will win" was injected into the bone marrow when they were born. Only by working hard, they will eventually become a respected king with no worries about food and clothing, many wives and concubines.
The second stone comes from the dream of human society. At that time, there was no distinction between high and low, and of course there was no concept of "position". They work under completely equal conditions. Due to the long-term labor cooperation and gradual familiarity, the distinction between the able and the weak, the wise and the mediocre appeared later, and finally "positions" such as chiefs and tribal leaders appeared. "There is a place before there is a place" is the simplest proof of the development of human society.
The third stone comes from one of the purest groups in human society: the scientific community. Put aside the factors of academic corruption. Who is an outstanding scientific worker who has not been recognized by the industry through his own efforts and research? Liu Yao, an optician in the School of Life Sciences, and Academician Pang in your school, can they take up such prestigious positions without excellent academic achievements? Even if we are given such a position, will we have their achievements?
To sum up, from the purest scientific community, primitive society and human society in nature, we all have the same answer: where there is something, there is a place.
Summary of Objections (* *15)
1, the definition of "bit"
A position in a coordinate system. The existence and development of anything must first have a positioning problem, and things without coordinates do not exist. The so-called "a radish and a pit" is born with its own positioning. Without the position of "as individuals", what can we talk about?
(Debaters regard "Wei" as a universal social role, so don't everyone sit in the right place? Even newborn babies have their place! Since everyone has a seat, let's talk today: What's the point of having a seat without a seat? )
(Wang Wen Business Daily: Then you can also understand it as: degree, seat, bed, taste? Can we also define "promising" as "possibly having an impact" or "having any impact"? )
Let's look at the definitions of "Wei" and "Wei" in the dictionary ... (The other side defends! There are 15 definitions of "Wei" in Advanced Chinese Dictionary, and "Wei" as a verb has as many as 16 meanings. Only by putting "Wei" and "Wei" in an appropriate context can we understand them accurately. It is not always possible to solve the problem by looking it up in a dictionary!
Among them, "Wei" also means "female monkey" and "play". It is necessary for the opposing debater to argue with us that only one can be a female monkey and only one can fight? Not the dogma of the opposing side &; Ben. )
2, the employment of college students: only one can be done first. Isn't the role of the interview to see if this person has the ability and achievements? A grade certificate, an exam, and rich internship experience, aren't these actions? )
~ Let's see if a person can tell from his appearance and figure (unlike Bo Le Xiang Ma). In order to prove his ability, he must do something accordingly.
~ It is not only fame and family or earth-shattering events that prove success. It may not have the scientific significance of "discovering the theory of relativity" or the historical significance of "liberating all China".
~ Practice is the only criterion for testing truth. Our success depends on practice and what you have done!
~ how to understand "more than two years working experience" and "experience is preferred"? Do you want priority or priority?
3. Compared with no position, having a position can make greater contributions and make more achievements; "Stand" is a kind of motivation and pressure. After you have a position, you will often work hard, study hard and do more things. The other party is obviously saying that you may have a better future after you have a job, which we don't deny. But obviously the other debater digress, but he can't prove that he has talent! )
The history of "current events make heroes" has long proved that great revolutionary struggles will make great people and bring into play talents that were impossible in the past. Lenin (Please don't mislead the audience. "Position" can be understood as: position, position and official position. When was it summarized as "time" by the other debater? I wonder if the other debater still wants to define the whole universe as "bits"? )
~ If Time is a place to go, why do so many people have no chance, only heroes can grasp it? Isn't it because of what they did?
5. In reality, the society has not yet created a good environment for outstanding talents to stand out, and the mechanism is not perfect.
(1) Promising people are excluded, and they are often not reused. There are many examples of omission occupying an important position.
(2) It will also be limited by the establishment and the number of positions, not to mention that others are more promising than you.
Without creating a good environment and mechanism, just saying "promising places" is tantamount to making an empty talk to the world. Can you say that the whole society is corrupt because one leader is corrupt? We say the environment is good! "Only when there is something can there be a place" can be relied on, and it is by no means empty talk! )
In addition, the society is developing in the direction of fairness, justice and openness, and the employment mechanism will be more perfect. We believe that there will be fewer and fewer cases where there is no place for the promising, and you will eventually find that "letting the promising have a place to live" can make the world a better place.
Look at the face of superiors in real society. "How many somersaults can the Monkey King do in the palm of Buddha's hand?" (Whether the Monkey King can turn a few somersaults in the hands of the Tathagata or not, he became the Monkey King only because of exorcism. If he only does such a small thing as letting the horse go and watching the flowers, he can only be a Bi Marvin. Doesn't this "prove that there is a place to do things"? )
6. The negative proposition of the positive side: "Nothing will have no position" is not established! Such as inheriting and buying important officials, mediocre officials, and faint officials ... (Even if an inaction has a position, it will not last long, and it will not win people's respect. Similarly, I want to ask about your negative theory: you can't do anything without a position. Is it true?/You don't say. There are still many people who can do a lot without a seat! )
7. "Being absent is ultra vires" and "Being absent is ultra vires". If it is carried out offside at will, it will reduce the efficiency of cooperation if it is too small; It is illegal to enforce the law without authorization. Of course we won't do anything that the law doesn't allow us to do. What we have to do is what we can and should do, which is beneficial to the people. Only in this way can we get the position we deserve. Those who "behave themselves and do not seek politics" will eventually be eliminated by history! Isn't it? Opposing debater)
"The old sow catches the train-the spirit is commendable" (the other party is a sow who doesn't have to do anything in the pigsty! After all, we have pursuits and goals! If the other party does not strive for a "promising" position, but just complains blindly, it will be farther and farther away from the position. )
8. From the perspective of selecting talents, if there is a corresponding position before this position is equipped, it will lead to a large number of brain drain and waste. Do not mislead the audience. "Do something before you do something" is used to measure talents, so that people can do their best and do their best. On the contrary, talented people and unemployed people occupy a large number of positions, and talented people look at the ocean and sigh. Isn't this a great waste of jobs and human resources? )
9. Archimedes once said, "If you give me a fulcrum, I can pry the earth up." The fulcrum is "one point" and it is "promising" to pry up the earth. Yes, if I give you a fulcrum, what if I don't give you this fulcrum? Don't you want to fight for a fulcrum like yourself? There will be no pie in the sky! )
10, some people think they are promising, but they are not recognized by others; Some people do nothing but are regarded as promising by others. There is no clear standard for doing and not doing! "Say no, say no!"
Nowadays, there are many criteria for evaluating a person's behavior: for example, grading, performance evaluation, and performance achievements. Aren't these standards?
~ doing nothing is not what some people or a leader say. There are indeed unfair examples, but we say that the overall environment is good!
~ I don't even know the standard of doing or not doing. Is another debater coming to tell us today: as long as there is a place, we don't care whether we do it or not? You don't even know anyway. )
1 1, the opposite side will understand the orientation of adult life: everyone has his own orientation, and only by finding and recognizing his own orientation can he be targeted and make a difference! Instead of what is advocated positively: taking "position" as your own goal, acting blindly and losing direction and meaning. (The definition is wrong. If such a positive debate is not changed to: do one thing, you will have a life orientation. If you don't do it, there is no life orientation. This is not deprivation of personal freedom! ! There is no exchange of fire between the pros and cons of such a debate, which is meaningless! )
12, case:
Zhan Tianyou: "An official can't do it, and neither can he. Without the official position given to you by the court, there would be no position, and no one would do anything great for you. " With the position given to you by the court, do you still have something to do? Is there nothing to do without a position? The court did not give Hong Xiuquan the throne. He achieved the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom through his own actions! ) So did Zhan have a job or a position first? Of course, he is a pioneer. I think the court appointed him for a reason, such as his excellent study abroad experience and rich practical experience. Otherwise, why didn't the court appoint Wei Xiaobao to build the railway? Won't he have a better position? )
Zhuge Liang's talent is outstanding. Without Liu Bei's three visits to the cottage and entrusted with heavy responsibilities and high positions, I am afraid it is difficult to achieve much. At all times and in all countries, there are countless examples of empty skills that cannot be displayed.
The story of self-recommendation: not long into the bag, sharp-edged. This "bag" refers to the location.
Without the unified political power established by Huang Taiji, how could Aisingiorro Michelle Ye push the feudal society to its peak and open a new era of prosperity in Kanggan?
Deng Xiaoping was abandoned during the Cultural Revolution. Lincoln used to be a lawyer, but later he held an important position and made great achievements.
13, the purpose of "promising" is to have a position: from the logical structure reflected by the concept of "promising and standing", "standing" is the purpose of "promising" and "promising" is the means or way of "standing". There is an obvious "exchange" relationship between the two, that is, replacing "you" with "you". Confuse the audience and distort the debate. When did we say that we had hope of getting a position? If we are for "one place", what about each other? The other side puts "one position" first. Don't you do anything for a position? )
14, in order to show "promising" actions, there must be an obvious "performance" nature, that is, to show leaders and people. The process of pursuing superficial "promising" and utilitarian "position"
15, is the principle of personnel organization setting "depending on things" or "depending on people"? It is obviously against the basic principles of work and absurd to "decide things by people" (that is, to leave a place for something).
Question:
1, how did Chairman Mao get his position? The chairman is a peasant and has achieved a high status through his own actions. If we only gave him the position of chairman, would he still have such a lofty position today?
2. (Talking about employment) Why "more than two years of work experience" and "experience is preferred"? Isn't this putting the future first?
Mainly seize the following three loopholes of the other party and repeatedly bombard them:
First, about the inverse proposition:
If the true proposition is true, then the negative proposition is also true. The negative proposition of the opposing side is: Is it really "no position, no action"? (First question)
If we say that only one person can do one thing, then "nothing can be done without a position"? (second question)
Are people who have no position or inaction idle? Self-made people (such as Bill Gates and Rockefeller) don't all start from scratch and do a lot. (third question)
◎ Isn't it "no one can do anything without a position"? (fourth question)
Aren't there many people who have no status but have made great achievements (Sima Qian)?
Examples of negative propositions:
1, Marx had no political status and lived in poverty, but he wrote Das Kapital and put forward capitalism.
2. Sima Qian was just a prisoner, but he wrote such an immortal masterpiece as Historical Records in prison;
3. Einstein was just a small patent office clerk, but he put forward such a great theory as relativity;
Mendel was only a priest, but he discovered the important laws of genetics and occupied a lofty position in the scientific community.
4. The rogue emperor Zhu Yuanzhang was born humble, but didn't he still work hard as an emperor?
5. There are also those knowledgeable people, such as Mao Zedong. Although he is the chairman, he has made great achievements in literary creation, not because of the position of chairman, but because of his own efforts!
Second, about the positive outlook on life:
◎ The other debater talks about the reality blindly, but if the reality doesn't give you a place and status, do you complain passively and wait for death, or do it down-to-earth and seriously? (First question)
Yes, it's good to give me this position, but what if the reality doesn't give me such a position? Are you passively waiting or actively acting? (third question)
◎ If everyone is waiting for a position to be delivered to the door, instead of fighting for it and doing nothing, will this world still develop? When there is no place, should we wait and see or do something positive? Why can't the other debater answer? )
Third, about the benign employment mechanism:
◎ "Only those who have jobs can have positions" is conducive to the use of talents, so that people can make the best use of their talents. It is a benign talent appointment mechanism. And "meritocracy", many promising people can not be reused, but inaction occupies a large number of positions. Isn't this a great waste of jobs and human resources?
Since the position is so important, it is a reasonable employment mechanism to let promising people have positions! This is called the quantity before use. If there are no positions for the promising, but a lot of positions are occupied by the inaction, isn't this a waste of positions and talents? (second question)
◎ I want to ask another debater once again: Is it a waste of posts and talents to "do things only when you have a position"? If we can only use it "for talents", I don't think there will be so many people to make up the number. (third question)