Let's take a look at a joke on the internet first.
One day, Qualcomm, Huawei, Apple, Samsung and a group of friends were having tea.
Qualcomm: Huawei, if you stand up, I will stand up.
Huawei: Stand up with a puzzled face.
Qualcomm: It's nothing personal. I mean, everyone here is rubbish.
Huawei:. . . . .
Huawei Ba Long 5000 and Qualcomm X55 baseband.
X55 baseband has just been released, which is a multimode 5G baseband. Ba Long 5000 is also multimode 5G baseband. The X50 released earlier is a single-mode baseband, which only supports 5G and does not support other networks. The peak download speed of X55 baseband is about 6Gps. The download speed of Huawei Ba Long 5000 baseband is about 6.5Gps, and their performance is similar. But X50 baseband is poor, only single-mode baseband, and it is backward 28nm process, which consumes a lot of energy. X55 will not be put into production until the end of this year. In other words, the 5G mobile phones listed in the second half of this year and the middle of this year are X50 baseband mobile phones except Huawei's high energy consumption of external baseband. Huawei Ba Long 5000 is the latest 7nm technology. In addition to Matex, the next 5G mobile phone will be Mate20X, and HONOR will launch 5G mobile phones one after another.
To sum up, it is the comparison of baseband technology between Huawei and Qualcomm. Without baseband, the mobile phone can't access the network. It is much more important than the software developed by friends.
Huawei's 5G baseband is stronger! Qualcomm lags behind Huawei for at least half a year! Not much to say, just upload parameters and data!
Huawei and Qualcomm's 5G baseband has been applied to the actual 5G mobile phone. Huawei's is Ba Long 5000, and Qualcomm's is X50. Let's look at the actual data:
Baron 5000: Huawei's 5G baseband manufacturing process is 7 nm; The supported standard is all-standard, that is, while supporting 5G, it also supports 2 G/3 G/4 G; The download speed of each frequency band is: SUB6g: download 4.6Gbps, upload 2.5Gbps；; Millimeter wave: download 6.5Gbps and upload 3.5Gbps；; NR+LTE: Download 7.5Gbps.
Qualcomm X50: Let's take a look at Qualcomm. The manufacturing process is 10nm, and the standard belongs to single mode, which only supports 5G and is not backward compatible. I haven't found the download speed of X50 in various frequency bands (it may not be announced yet), but only the data of the next generation X55 in Qualcomm. Specifically, the uplink and downlink transmission rates of millimeter wave are 6Gbps and 3 GbpsNR+LTE respectively, and the download rate is 7Gbps.
Two comments: The above data can be regarded as the core parameters of two 5G baseband, from which we can see that Huawei's Ba Long is stronger, its download rate is already higher than that of Qualcomm's next-generation X55 baseband, and its manufacturing technology is ahead of Qualcomm for a whole generation. The system is fully compatible with 2G/3G/4G/5G, which is very suitable for the current situation that 5G has not been fully popularized. However, Qualcomm is monomode. If you want to use it at the present stage, you must add an independent baseband of 2G/3G/4G, otherwise the Qualcomm X50 baseband 5G mobile phone can only be used in the 5G environment, and there is no practical application scenario at present. Qualcomm himself is aware of the problem, so the next-generation Qualcomm X55 baseband is also full-standard, and it can't be mass-produced yet. In terms of time, it is at least half a year behind Huawei.
The reason why Huawei is strong: Huawei's 5G baseband is strong, and it can surpass Qualcomm because of its technology accumulation in the communication field. The research and development of baseband requires very high technology in communication field. At present, there are only five companies in the world that can develop baseband, including Huawei, Samsung, MediaTek, Qualcomm and Apple, but none of these five companies can do it except Qualcomm, which is why these companies have not come up with more effective 5G baseband so far. Apple is the weakest. Intel, which used to rely on, is now developing itself, but without the accumulation of communication technology, the efficiency will be very low.
Future: Huawei's next-generation Kirin 990 will directly integrate the 5G baseband, and the new mobile phone launched at that time will not be the way of mobile phone chip+plug-in 5G baseband as it is now, and will be directly completed by a mobile phone chip. I hope Huawei can surpass all its competitors in all directions.
Huawei Ba Long 5000 and Qualcomm X55 are two of the most mature 5G baseband, which can't be said to be better. Generally speaking, they have their own advantages, but from the data we have seen, Qualcomm X55 baseband chip is slightly better in actual performance.
In terms of data, Qualcomm X55 performed better.
According to the published peak rate data, the peak download rate of Huawei Balong5000 in the mm-wave and millimeter-wave band reached 6.5Gbps, and that of Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 reached 7Gbps. However, Huawei later proposed that based on 5G NR+LTE mode, the fastest download rate can reach 7.5Gbps.
From this point of view, the absolute speed of Qualcomm X55 is indeed better, but both of them are excellent, but there is no actual test, which should be laboratory data. Although the laboratory data can't be too single, the actual use scenario will definitely be much more complicated than this, and it is estimated that the actual experience will be slightly worse than this.
They are all 7nm processes, but Huawei adopted them first.
Huawei's Balong5000 was released a few days earlier than Qualcomm's Snapdragon X55. Both baseband chips are made of 7nm technology, which is still very important.
Baseband chips directly affect the overall heating control and power consumption of mobile phones. Apple iPhone missed the launch of 5G mobile phone, mainly because Intel has been unable to overcome the technological barriers of baseband chips, and its heating power consumption is high. Later, the process was upgraded and some progress was made. In recent years, Apple has been questioned by users in terms of signal, heat and power consumption due to problems with Intel chips, which is also the fundamental reason for the cooperation between Apple and Qualcomm.
In 20 16, when Qualcomm released the world's first 5G baseband chip X50, it adopted 28nm technology, and X55 and Baron 5000 successively adopted 7nm technology, which represented the gradual maturity of 5G baseband.
They are all full-mode chips, but there is a high probability that they will be inserted.
Huawei Snapdragon 5000 is the first full-mode full-frequency baseband chip, and the subsequent Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 is also a full-mode baseband chip, which means not only 5G, but also the full-mode capabilities of 2G, 3G, 4G and 5G.
Of course, it doesn't mean that the integrated baseband is necessarily the best, but it is definitely better overall. However, as far as the current trend is concerned, it is estimated that the current 5G baseband has to be implemented by plug-ins. After all, technically, the construction of base stations is also a problem. Although both chips support independent networking and non-independent networking, the problem is that the cost of independent networking is too high, and it depends largely on the accumulation of base stations in the previous 2G/3G/4G era. From this perspective, it is also the probability of plug-in.
Of course, plug-ins are not a problem. After all, Apple has been doing plug-ins for so many years, and the integrated Soc does have many advantages, such as smaller size, lower power consumption and lower cost. But we must understand that the application field of 5G is extended to the Internet of Everything. The future is in-vehicle systems, drones, robots, and various smart homes. Therefore, plug-in is not only a technical problem, but also to cater to future usage scenarios.
Invited to answer questions in this industry.
Huawei's 5G baseband is stronger than Qualcomm's.
Huawei's baseband began to be stronger than Qualcomm's, and the turning point was actually in the 4G era.
At the end of the 2G era, Qualcomm basically monopolized the CDMA system. 3G, on the other hand, is a patent with CDMA as the core, which also opens the monopoly era in Qualcomm.
In order to promote CDMA, Qualcomm sold his mobile phone business to Kyocera, his CDMA base station business and Ericsson. This is a strategic success, which enables Qualcomm to focus on the research and development of patents and chips, but it also casts a shadow over the 4G era.
In the 4G era, the global mainstream standard is LTE, which is the LTE organized by 3GPP, including TD-LTE and FDD-LTE.
In fact, 3GP2, led by Qualcomm, was also developing a subsequent evolution version of UMB based on CDMA, but it died later and switched to the LTE camp of 3GPP.
However, LTE itself is a technology evolved by 3GPP to get rid of the monopoly in Qualcomm, which completely circumvents Qualcomm's patented technology. The core idea is to move towards high technology, so in fact, Qualcomm is not very strong in LTE.
In the 4G era, Huawei has surpassed Qualcomm in baseband.
Among them, Huawei's Ba Long 700 is the industry's first baseband supporting TD-LTE/FDD-LTE; Ba Long 7 10 is the industry's first baseband supporting LTE Cat.4, and the first one has achieved the peak speed of 150Mbps in LTE system. Ba Long 720 is the industry's first baseband supporting Cat.6, which realizes the download speed of 300Mbps for LTE system. Ba Long 750 is the first to support Cat. 12/Cat. 13, the first to support 4 carrier aggregation, and the first to support 4*4 MIMO, which can download the baseband of LTE system at 600Mbps. Ba Long 760 is the industry's first baseband supporting Cat. 18, and its peak speed can reach1.2gbps.
In various periods of 4G, Qualcomm was actually left behind by Huawei's Ba Long series baseband.
As for TD-LTE, Huawei's Ba Long series baseband is also the best baseband to support high-speed operation. The high-speed sports meeting will produce Doppler frequency shift, which has a great influence on communication performance, and this is also the reason why the mobile phone equipped with Qualcomm baseband in the department uses the mobile phone card of China Mobile to have poor signal on the high-speed rail.
Qualcomm is slowly falling behind Huawei in baseband field. In fact, there are still many reasons.
The first reason can be said to be the biggest advantage of China's communication industry, but I don't know what to say about this one. That's the unique overtime culture in China. For engineers in China, it can basically be said that the workload of each person is twice or more than that of Europe and America. The rise of China's communication industry is the result of several generations of people working overtime. Everyone is talking about overtaking in the corner. In fact, there is no overtaking in the corner. They all work overtime and overtake in the back straight.
The second advantage is that in fact, Qualcomm has been studying UMB, while Huawei started in the LTE camp, and Huawei also has a first-Mover advantage in this field. Moreover, Huawei is more experienced than Qualcomm in the accumulation of TDD systems such as TD-SCDMA and TD-LTE.
The third advantage is cooperation. Baseband needs the cooperation of terminals, equipment vendors and even operators. Qualcomm gave up his terminal and network equipment and squeezed the whole communication industry in the 3G era, so it is much more difficult to cooperate with the test. Huawei not only has its own terminals and network equipment, but also has the most existing network equipment, and it knows the parameters of the existing network like the back of its hand.
Qualcomm has two generations of 5G baseband, and Huawei actually has two generations, but Huawei's baseband performance is better than that of Qualcomm.
The first generation of 5G baseband X50 in Qualcomm was launched on 20 16, but the R 15 version of 3GPP was frozen on 20 18.
Qualcomm's X50 baseband does not support SA, so the system performance is not very strong and stable. In fact, its earliest launch was not prepared for 5G of 3GPP. To a large extent, it can only be said to be a semi-finished product.
X50 adapts to mobile phone manufacturers and equipment manufacturers under the condition of constant modification, which means that its second-generation X55 baseband launch time is not so fast.
Qualcomm's second generation X55 baseband is still a PPT product. It was originally expected to be commercialized by the end of 20 19, but it may be delayed until the first half of 2020.
Even with X55, the maximum download can reach 7Gbps (including 6Gbps(NR)+ 1Gbps(LTE)), which is not as fast as the current 7.5Gbps of Ba Long 5000.
Huawei has actually launched two 5G baseband models, namely 5G0 1 in 20 18 and Ba Long 5000 in 2020.
In other words, in fact, Huawei's baseband is now half a generation faster than that introduced by Qualcomm, which is also the embodiment of Huawei's own advantages in terminal and network equipment.
In short, in the performance of 5G baseband, Huawei has surpassed Qualcomm at present, and the upgrading of baseband is faster than that of Qualcomm, and this gap will be more obvious in the future.
First of all, Baron 5000 is based on the latest 7nm technology, which is consistent with the mainstream CPU technology, which significantly reduces its power consumption and will not reduce the battery life of the mobile phone. Qualcomm X50 uses a very old 28 nm process, which consumes a lot of electricity and energy. At present, neither Qualcomm nor Huawei can integrate baseband into SOC, so they can only plug in baseband, so the power consumption of the first generation of 5G mobile phones is higher than that of 4G mobile phones in the same period.
Secondly, Baron 5000 supports NSA (non-independent networking) and SA (independent networking), which is more applicable. Because in the early days of 5G, NSA and SA were mixed. However, Qualcomm X50 only supports NSA non-independent networking, which means that some areas using SA independent networking may face the problem of not receiving 5G signals.
Thirdly, Baron 5000 supports multi-mode and multi-frequency network standards such as 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G and millimeter wave, that is, a baseband "takes all" 2G to 5G. Qualcomm X50 only supports 5G baseband, so it needs to use the old 4G baseband to be compatible with 2G to 4G. Therefore, the battery capacity of the 5G mobile phone using Qualcomm X50 is larger, but the battery life is shorter, because the dual baseband consumes too much power.
Therefore, Huawei's Ba Long 5000 is obviously superior to the 5G baseband chips listed at this stage. Of course, Qualcomm is not far behind. In the first quarter of this year, the second generation X55 baseband was released. Like Huawei Ba Long 5000, it adopts 7nm technology, supports NSA and SA networking, and also supports multimode frequency bands from 2G to 5G. However, even the second-generation Qualcomm X55 baseband is not as good as Huawei Ba Long 5000 in some parameters. For example, in terms of downlink rate, the download rate of Qualcomm X55 is 6.5Gbps, and that of Huawei Ba Long 5000 is 7.5Gbps.
Finally, the Qualcomm X55 baseband chip was released at the beginning of this year, which has been unable to catch up with the first generation of 5G mobile phones. It is expected that the second-generation 5G mobile phone launched early next year will use Qualcomm X55 baseband. Huawei's first 5G mobile phone, Huawei Mate X, will be equipped with Ba Long 5000 baseband, which is expected to be launched before the end of the year.
Huawei Kirin chip 990 is integrated with 7 nm EUV. At present, Qualcomm 865x55, the top chip released by Qualcomm, is still externally connected. Ren Zheng Fei overheard a 5g speech at a previous hearing. Most people just laugh it off and think it's a fantasy. However, Mr. Ren has always kept it in mind. After evaluation, he formed a team to study 5g. When Huawei Kirin 990 Ba Long 5000 was released, the United States was really shocked, because they thought it was impossible for China to develop a 5g chip so soon. The end result is that Qualcomm is 3-5 years behind Kirin Chip. We must be optimistic about Huawei's Kirin chip in the future. If the United States wants to use Huawei's 5g technology, it must pay the patent fee to Huawei.
Of course, Huawei is the strongest! Huawei's 5g baseband chip is based on Ba Long's 50007nm process, which supports independent networking and sa hybrid networking. The Internet speed reaches 4.6gps, which is the most mature and advanced 5g baseband chip at present. Only Huawei in the world has the ability of the whole industry chain, which can solve all end-to-end problems. Qualcomm only provides 5g construction scheme, and there is no network equipment. The x50 baseband chip released by Qualcomm is still in 10nm process, which has a large calorific value and does not have the ability to mix desires, so it can't compare with Huawei at all.
The x55 baseband newly released by Qualcomm has basically reached the level of Huawei Ba Long 5000 with 7 nm technology, but it will not be shipped until next year! It can be seen that the gap between Qualcomm and Huawei in 5g is about one year.
Thank you for your question. Huawei and Qualcomm's 5G baseband have their own advantages and emphases.
Each has its advantages and disadvantages. In the "voting event" that made a lot of noise last year, everyone knew four standards about 5G, including two long codes and two short codes. Among them, Huawei got a short code, while Qualcomm got two other long codes and 1 short code, which also shows that Qualcomm's authority in the communication field is still higher than Huawei's. After all, Qualcomm is an absolute monopolist in the 3G and 4G network era.
However, the standard of 5G network is one thing, and it is another matter for enterprises to keep the number of patents of 5G network. According to a statistic, at present, Huawei has the largest number of 5G network patents in the world, followed by Ericsson, and Qualcomm ranks fifth, which shows that Huawei is the global leader in 5G network technology solutions. From this point of view, Huawei's 5G network solutions are richer than Qualcomm's.
The reason why Huawei has more technical solutions than Qualcomm is that Huawei has another competitive advantage in Qualcomm, which is the advantage of network construction. After all, Huawei has started network construction since its establishment, not only in China, but also in the international market. This is already very obvious in the construction of 5G networks. Even under the high-intensity pressure of the United States, Huawei still got nearly 40 5G network cooperation agreements. On the other hand, from this point of view, Qualcomm's identity is more inclined to be a technology provider, but at present, in terms of technological breakthrough, Qualcomm is increasingly facing competitive pressure from Huawei.
Another point is that Qualcomm and Huawei have their own strengths, that is, Huawei itself has shipped more than 200 million mobile phones every year, so it can better apply its own technology to terminal products, and the feedback will be more timely and accurate. For example, Ba Long and plough chips released by Huawei can directly contact end users with their own terminal products. In this regard, Qualcomm has a higher advantage in terms of shipments, because most of the mainstream Android phones in the world are chips from Snapdragon, and the future 5G network business in Qualcomm is mainly tb. Therefore, there are some differences between Qualcomm and Huawei in the iterative innovation of technology.
In a word, I think Qualcomm has an advantage over Huawei in terms of industry influence, and I am more optimistic about Huawei in terms of the number of technical solutions and continuous innovation.
On the 6th and 6th, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology officially announced the issuance of commercial licenses for 5G networks, and the 5G networks are getting closer and closer to us.
So, which is stronger, Huawei or Qualcomm's 5G baseband chip?
Let's compare these four baseband chips, who is stronger!
Comparison between Huawei and Qualcomm's 5G baseband chips
1. Let's start with Huawei Ba Long 5G0 1 and Qualcomm Snapdragon X50, two 5G baseband chips.
2. Let's talk about Huawei Ba Long 5000 and Qualcomm Snapdragon X55, two 5G baseband chips.
The process and functional parameters of the two 5G baseband chips are almost the same, but the download speed is slightly different:
Huawei Ba Long 5000 has a theoretical download speed of 6.5Gbps and an upload speed of 3.5Gbps, while Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 has a theoretical download speed of 7Gbps and an upload speed of 3Gbps. Theoretically, Huawei Ba Long 5000 is weaker than Qualcomm Snapdragon X55.
The actual gap between Huawei Baron 5000 and Qualcomm Snapdragon X55.
First, the difference in production time.
Although the download performance of Huawei Ba Long 5000 is slightly behind that of Qualcomm Snapdragon X55, its release time is much earlier than that of Qualcomm Snapdragon X55.
Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 will not be officially commercialized until the second half of this year, and Huawei Ba Long 5000 will not be put into production. For example, Huawei Mate X mobile phone will be released this month. Therefore, the slight difference in download volume does not simply mean that Huawei is weaker than Qualcomm. After all, Huawei's better 5G chip will be put into production when it is officially commercialized in Qualcomm.
Second, the actual download speed difference
After all, theoretical data is only a laboratory test, and it needs to be tested in the actual environment.
Mate X equipped with Huawei Ba Long 5000 baseband chip, the actual test download speed 1Gbps, upload speed 100Mbps. Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 has not been commercialized, and there is no actual test comparison data.
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