Which is the better quality, Toyota or Honda?
Generally speaking, Toyota cars are more durable.
Although both Toyota and Honda are famous for their fuel economy and durability, there are still some differences.
In fact, Toyota is more inclined to control the details and improve in all directions, just like a balanced player, striving for every point.
On the other hand, Honda likes to specialize in what it is good at, just like a geek who likes to solve difficult problems, but he may not be able to do standard questions well.
Toyota has a better gearbox.
First of all, talk about the difference between the two gearboxes.
Although Toyota is conservative, its quality is guaranteed. Although Toyota is conservative, it is very stable. Toyota's gearbox can be said to be an antique, but it is very stable and the quality is guaranteed, because of the support of OG big brother in the gearbox industry, that is, Aisin.
As we all know, Toyota actually controls Aisin Company, so almost all Toyota models adopt Aisin automatic gearbox.
The first car with 4AT in the world was Toyota Crown 1978. At that time, its Aisin 6AT was called "the best gearbox" on the market.
Both Volkswagen in Germany and GM in the United States are using this gearbox. Even the * * * and the national nephew Hongqi, which cost 5 million yuan, are almost all independently "developed", but the gearbox needs Aisin.
Simply put, Toyota's Aisin gearbox is the strongest patent wall in the AT gearbox industry.
Honda tends to develop its own gearbox. Honda's gearbox is a product of technical house, which is a bit biased.
In fact, the presidents of Honda are all in the technical department. Corporate culture is dominated by engineers, completely controlled by technology and obsessed with technology.
Just as Steve Jobs' Apple pays more attention to innovation, Cook's Apple pays more attention to revenue. In fact, it is precisely because of the different positions and backgrounds of the two executives that the governance style of the whole enterprise will be different.
Honda has no technical accumulation in the gearbox field, unlike the other two Japanese brothers-Toyota has Aisin and Nissan has Gatco.
Honda has no reliable younger brother, the mainstream AT gearbox, and the patent wall is too high to climb. But relying on the spirit of engineers, Honda just bypassed the patent wall.
Honda found another way to develop 8-speed dual clutch. As we all know, the biggest technical problem of AT gearbox is actually the planetary gear set. Since it can't be used, Honda will try to remove it for you and replace it with more clutches.
I used five clutches in 5AT and six clutches in 6AT, and changed the AT gearbox with only one shaft into a three-axis parallel shaft gearbox.
But also because of this structure, there are more and more clutches and the gearbox is getting bigger and bigger. When others were already using 8AT and 9AT, Honda, a technical expert, was dumbfounded: "Are you trying to kill me?"
So Honda felt that this road was impassable, so it started again and worked there like Frankenstein. Based on 6AT, the world's only 8-speed dual clutch with torque converter is developed.
Although this scheme solves the problem, it also loses the characteristics of low power loss and fuel economy because of the hydraulic torque converter, which seems to make up for the Western Wall.
Engine Honda has a slight advantage.
Next, let's talk about the engine.
Toyota research and development company. D has invested more in engines, but Toyota is not so good at engines. Toyota still has a lot of r&; Investment and technology accumulation.
1998, Toyota released its own "D4" in-cylinder direct injection technology, which was the first manufacturer to launch direct injection technology.
20 1 1 year, when Honda launched the first generation of direct injection Earth Dream engine, Toyota had already launched a dual-injection engine with two injectors per cylinder, and then a dual-injection dual-cycle turbine engine.
According to the statistics of Japan Patent Office, from 200 1 to 20 12, the number of patent applications for automobile engine combustion technology of Toyota in Japan's main engine plant was 1635, while that of Honda was only 342, a difference of nearly five times.
What about Honda's engine? Honda has had an "oil valve" in recent years, right? Some time ago, there was a "stall door" incident.
Anyway, on the whole, we are not angry, but in the long run, Honda does have its own advantages in terms of engines from the perspective of historical long-term development level.
Honda's engine technology is very strong. Honda was originally an engine factory. Building cars is actually its sideline, and even it can independently develop jet engines.
Honda's engine is a bit biased, even paranoid, and it only does the technology that interests it.
Taking Honda's early naturally aspirated engine as an example, the "Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control System", referred to as VTEC, was specially developed.
This system is the first valve control system in the world that can control the valve opening and closing time and lift simultaneously.
Simply put, the horsepower is stronger at high speed; It is more fuel-efficient and environmentally friendly at low speed. In the true sense, "let the horse run fast and let the horse not eat grass."
It is more advantageous to supply parts to Toyota.
After talking about big items, let's talk about the gap between small items and parts suppliers.
Toyota's parts are taken from its subsidiary Toyota, and its parts manufacturers include Denso, Aisin, Toyota Textile, Toyota Synthetic and Jiegaite. 20 16, these are the top 30 parts manufacturers in the world.
Among them, Denso and Aisin ranked second and seventh respectively among global auto parts enterprises.
Toyota is more like an old Japanese company, holding the whole industrial chain in its own hands, as well as engines, air switches, driving computers, sunroof assemblies and other accessories. Will all come from the products of its subsidiaries.
These subsidiaries must be called Toyota michel platini and listen to michel platini, otherwise they will not be given pocket money.
Relying on Honda's third-party supply Compared with Honda, Honda uses more third-party supply methods, and its largest component supplier is "Xin Kai", ranking 9 1 in the world.
Honda can make some parts by itself, which is good. If not, Honda will become the "dragon core" of the supply chain. "michel platini won't give me goods today, and my adopted son can only be anxious there."
So in terms of parts and supply chain, Toyota is much stronger.
Toyota is also in a leading position in quality control.
First of all, the four processes are similar. Finally, talk about quality control. First of all, the four processes are similar. The stamping, welding, painting and assembly processes of the two brands are almost the same.
In the concept of quality control, Toyota is relatively ahead. Taking Honda and Toyota production lines under GAC as examples, stamping automation and 100% robot welding have been realized. However, Toyota has always implemented the Toyota mode of production that creates value with the least labor.
By 1990, this mode of production is called "lean production". According to the official statement, any worker has the right to stop the production of the whole production line if he finds any quality problems in the products.
Honda has built a whole-process quality control system with a learning attitude and referring to Toyota's lean production concept, which can quickly adjust the "flexible manufacturing concept" of equipment according to product demand.
As far as the concept of quality control is concerned, Toyota is a master of Honda. Just like in the workshop, the master worked hard and paid great attention to details, and followed his disciples to learn the attitude of the master.
But it will take some time to surpass the master. After all, no one can succeed in one step, right?
In the American Consumer Report, the reliability of automobiles ranks first. On 20 17 and 20 18, the first place is Lexus owned by Toyota, and the second place is Toyota itself, which directly kills the list.
Toyota's overall performance is better than Honda's, although both cars are more durable, such as Toyota's Camry and Prado, Honda's Fit and Jed, which are the best in their class.
But on the whole, Toyota's overall performance is better than Honda's due to the differences in three major items and quality control.
Which Toyota suv has the highest cost performance?
The answer to this question will change, because the product strength of each generation is different, but at present, Honda's SUV is better. The key to Honda's victory over Toyota lies in hybrid power.
Objectively speaking, Honda's third-generation i-MMD hybrid technology has surpassed Toyota's THS twin engines, including fuel consumption performance, power performance and engine ride comfort. Honda's performance is better than Toyota's. What needs to be known is that Toyota, as an early hybrid car company, applied for a large number of hybrid patents in order to protect its position. This is also one of the reasons why many car companies do not do moderate mixing. Everything they do infringes on Toyota's patents and can only be light hybrid or pure electric.
Only Honda, a technical madman, can bypass Toyota's patent barrier and develop a moderate hybrid, and do better than Toyota. Toyota can't give up.
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