"Isn't it the most important thing to learn it yourself?"

At the beginning of 2022, CCTV host Zhang Yue retired, which hardly became a piece of news. But many people noticed that there were two in-depth reports about "Half the Sky" during March 8th last year. The flood of reader responses was like a mirror: It turns out that this program has led to such a profound and broad gender awareness education and inspired The independent and reflective consciousness of all.

Zhang Yue has always been "persistent" in her career as a host. How does she view her career? In the past ten years, we are not familiar with what she has been doing. How does she view the changes in the media and public opinion?

In April, I watched the rehearsals of the Yanghua drama "You and Me: Seven Wonderful Steps of Theater" four or five times, in which Zhang Yue participated in and refined the performance. Her lines only lasted a few minutes, but she sat upright from beginning to end, carefully watching other people's rehearsals. "Otherwise I would just be a host, not a character in the play."

Outside the play, everyone in the troupe, young and old, loved talking to her and listening to her tell stories. I somewhat understand the basis for a program with good reputation. However, in addition to dedication, "the strongest brain" and affinity, there must be something else.

Her collaborators all mentioned that during the "Zhang Yue Interview" period, she did not hesitate to travel long distances just to get into the environment of the interview subjects. For practitioners of social investigation and non-fiction reporting, this is almost an iron rule that needs no explanation, but it has never been a hard requirement for domestic interview hosts, but she is obsessed with it. As for quick responses and passion, a sense of equality with the interviewee, and "speaking well", these are qualities that many domestic hosts have been lacking for a long time.

Another point is that the "avant-garde" gender concept of a program and the stagnant reality it reflects form a contrast worth pondering. But for Zhang Yue, the demonstration of gender awareness is only the original intention of the program. "How people live" and how to face their own hearts are always what she cares about most.

Her knowledge and cultivation have grown simultaneously with the program.

There was a female guest on a program who had extremely low self-esteem because she only had one eye, and was afraid to fall in love or find a job. Zhang Yue was anxious in the show, "Try again, don't do this." This show is very controversial. She later said that the female guests looked so much like her. "I was struggling, grabbing straws and floating up. But she seemed to be watching her collapse..." Later she learned that to be able to put herself in someone else's shoes, she also needed to have a good sense of scale.

Sichuan girl Ye Luo was abducted and sold to an old man when she was 17 years old. After giving birth to a daughter, she ran away and worked as a bartender. When she became a corporate employee, she hoped to tell this story in "The Interview with Zhang Yue" and find her daughter. Zhang Yue suggested mosaic on her face, but she said no. After the show was broadcast, Ye Luo was fired from the unit and disappeared completely. This incident became a knot in Zhang Yue's heart. A few years later, they reconnected, and Ye Luo recognized her daughter. She also met her future husband because of the show. She never complained about what happened to her. At this point, the story has a relatively good ending.

"My regret is that I didn't stop her. When she said no (mosaic), I was happy. If it had happened later, I would have suggested that she seriously consider it." Recalling this paragraph, Zhang The more serious it is. "For me, the peace and happiness of a person's life are more important than a great program - and you can't make a great program."

She later went to the station to make a report , applied to permanently seal that episode. The last time I talked to Ye Luo, Ye Luo said emotionally: "Zhang Yue, when I am dying, some people's faces will appear in front of my eyes, including you."

We can't help but use it. Secular standards to measure gains and losses. Although "Nightline" and "The Rule of Law" later hosted by Zhang Yue also had a pioneering influence, "The Interview with Zhang Yue", which best demonstrated her talents and was the most sympathetic to her colleagues, only lasted for a short three to five years. Year. I couldn't help but feel sorry for her.

She didn't think so. "That time was brilliant and enjoyable enough. I experienced hundreds of lives. Even if the whole world doesn't know, you learned it yourself. Isn't it the most important thing?"