Qualcomm's cooperation was directly rejected, which really puzzled Qualcomm, because Qualcomm was busy suing Apple, and Apple suddenly said it wanted to buy the latest technology? What are you thinking, you earned enough money in those years, and then you started to cooperate brazenly? No respect at all, okay? Foreigners want face, besides, people have backbone, and money is not everything.
Samsung just came back from the dead. You want to steal my technology? What Samsung refuses is also very interesting, that is, our output is not enough and we don't accept foreign orders. Because the output is insufficient, it seems that it can't help. In fact, to put it bluntly, this is how I returned to the global market. Do you want to take it away? Not only did I not give it to you, but I also restricted you privately. This is really Apple's fault.
Huawei is afraid to buy it. The national conditions force the United States to be a country where capital controls politics, and this Sino-US trade war is not only Trump's own willfulness, but also the mediation of the capitalists behind it. Therefore, let's not talk about whether Apple is involved or not. We only say that simply cooperating with ourselves, Huawei will not sell, because Huawei has not been able to enter the US market and has not yet solved it. How can it still sell your technology?
First of all, the news that Apple's purchase of 5G baseband from Samsung and Qualcomm was rejected was reported by individual media, and it was not recognized by the three parties, so it is not necessarily true and credible. There have even been rumors before that Apple intends to buy 5G baseband from Huawei. In short, there are countless technology media in Apple's home. Every day, true and false news is flying all over the sky, mostly because I catch shadows.
Apple initially pinned its hopes for 5G chips on its partner Intel, but Intel's experience in the field of mobile processors is far less than that of Qualcomm. The 5G baseband will not come out until the second half of 2020, which may lead to the failure of 5G on the iPhone next year. So some media reported that Apple "asked for help" like Qualcomm and Samsung.
Secondly, if Qualcomm really rejected Apple's request for baseband, it would be natural. Because before the iPhone XS, Qualcomm had been supplying baseband chips for Apple's mobile phones, but Apple defaulted on the due payment for baseband chips in Qualcomm for various reasons, and even asked Qualcomm to refund part of the patent fees. As a result, the two sides went to court, and the lawsuit went from the United States to China, which was very lively. In this case, Qualcomm refused to continue to cooperate with Apple.
Of course, Apple sells more than 200 million mobile phones a year, and even Qualcomm can't completely resist such a huge number. So not long ago, Qualcomm also said that if Apple wants to buy Qualcomm's baseband chips, it must sign an "exclusive agreement". According to Qualcomm's request, only Qualcomm's baseband chips can be used in the future, and Apple is not allowed to use third-party chips such as Intel. This is obviously the lion's mouth. If Apple agreed to Qualcomm's request, it would be tantamount to handing over its lifeline to Qualcomm, which Apple could not agree in any case, so the two sides broke up again.
As for Samsung's refusal to provide Apple with 5G baseband, it is easy to understand as "insufficient capacity". Samsung is the mobile phone brand with the highest shipment volume in the world, with an annual sales volume of over 300 million mobile phones. Even if only one-third is a 5G mobile phone, it is not a small number. Moreover, baseband chips have never been Samsung's specialty, and 5G chips are not as mature as organic light-emitting diode screens. It is difficult for Sanxingguang to meet the demand of its own products, and it is unlikely that it will have the spare capacity to provide hundreds of millions of baseband chips for Apple.
More importantly, Samsung's 5G baseband chip also uses some patents from Qualcomm, and so does Huawei. So in theory, even if Samsung and Huawei want to provide Apple with baseband chips, they need Qualcomm's consent, and even Qualcomm can get royalties from it.
In short, Apple mobile phones may "fall behind" in the wave of 5G networks. In the final analysis, because of the lack of technical strength, it failed to develop its own 5G baseband chip in time, and was finally pinned down by Qualcomm. Not long ago, at Apple's spring product launch conference, there was no hardware, but only software and services, which proved that Apple had realized the lack of its hardware technical strength and had begun to plan to transform its service content. But without hardware support, can Apple's transformation be successful? It is still unknown.
Among the three giants in the mobile phone industry, Huawei has introduced the most advanced Ba Long 5000 baseband chip, and Huawei's 5G mobile phone is on its way. Samsung is even more surprising. S 10 5G is equipped with Qualcomm Snapdragon X50 and its own Exynos modem 5 100 baseband respectively, which has been mass-produced and will be listed soon. Apple has been seriously behind in 5G, and Cook is estimated to be overwhelmed.
Previously, Apple phones used Qualcomm's baseband for a long time, but this time it was different. Apple and Qualcomm are fighting a patent lawsuit, which is a fairy fight. Qualcomm sued Apple in China and Germany, asking the court to ban the sale of Apple phones. Now the relationship between Apple and Qualcomm can be said to be in dire straits, and it is naturally impossible for Qualcomm to provide Apple with 5G chips.
In addition to Qualcomm, manufacturers with 5G technology include Huawei, Samsung and Intel. Huawei is a China enterprise, and its global market share has threatened Apple, and it is impossible for Apple to get the 5G baseband from Huawei, so Apple turned its attention to Samsung, hoping that Samsung can overcome this difficulty for it. Unexpectedly, however, Samsung Electronics rejected Apple's request on the grounds of insufficient production capacity, and Apple's 5G may be ruined.
Intel also made it clear that its 5G regulator will not be available until at least 2020, so it is basically impossible for Apple to have 5G products this year. This means that Apple may fall behind other rivals for nearly a year, which is a very unfavorable situation. Apple itself has made no achievements in communication, and it is not realistic to do it by itself. As a new hot spot of the times, 5G network is a key technology and the foundation of Internet of Things and new technologies. Apple can only ask for more blessings.
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Qualcomm refused to pass the 5G baseband to Apple, mainly because the patent lawsuit between Qualcomm and Apple has not ended, and Apple has not planned to give Qualcomm enough patent fees. The lawsuit between Apple and Qualcomm is mainly based on the current charging model in Qualcomm, that is, the patent fee is charged according to the percentage of the whole mobile phone price. As the leader of high-end mobile phones, Apple has to pay the highest patent fees, but Apple is very reluctant to pay patent fees to other companies, not only Qualcomm, but also Nokia and Ericsson.
Because Apple didn't want to give Qualcomm Qualcomm the patent fee that Apple should pay, it gave up purchasing baseband from Qualcomm and bought Intel instead. However, Intel did not give force, and the 5G baseband could not be commercialized, which led to the failure of Apple's 5G mobile phone and had to find another way.
But it is very obvious that the road to Qualcomm is temporarily impassable.
Samsung doesn't want to provide a 5G foundation for Apple. According to Samsung, it is "insufficient capacity". However, apart from this statement, Samsung has a closer relationship with Qualcomm, and Samsung is unwilling to offend Qualcomm. As early as the CDMA era, Samsung had a very close relationship with Qualcomm. The first CDMA base station in Qualcomm was made by Samsung. Since the 2G era, Qualcomm has signed a patent licensing agreement with Samsung, and Samsung has spared no effort to introduce CDMA. As far as relations are concerned, Samsung and Qualcomm are even closer.
In addition, Apple is still the biggest profit winner in the smart phone market and the mobile phone manufacturer with the highest market share of high-end mobile phones. Samsung's own smart phone is the front competitor of Apple's mobile phone, not to mention the supply of Apple's 5G baseband, so that Apple's 5G mobile phone can't go out, which is also beneficial for Samsung to occupy a certain advantage in the high-end market competition.
In short, Qualcomm and Samsung will not provide Apple with baseband for the time being, and may have to wait for Apple's 5G mobile phone for the time being. But in the long run, I still think that Qualcomm will reach some kind of agreement with Apple, and at least some of Apple's 5G mobile phones will purchase 5G baseband from Qualcomm.
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Qualcomm's refusal to provide Apple with 5G baseband is understandable. After all, the two sides are still hostile and will continue to take legal procedures on patent issues in the future. More importantly, Apple still owes Qualcomm billions of dollars in patent fees. As for the reasons for not giving, it is also the focus of litigation between both parties. Apple thinks that Qualcomm's patent charging method is unreasonable, which obliterates Apple's innovative efforts in other aspects.
Therefore, before the two sides reach an understanding on this issue, their business dealings will be greatly affected, not to mention the fiery 5G baseband. As one of the largest baseband demanders in the world, Apple's baseband demand has always been a market that many semiconductor companies want to compete for. Why do many semiconductor giants, including Samsung, keep silent when Apple is in danger?
There is no official announcement about Samsung's refusal to provide Apple with 5G baseband, but it is conceivable that after Apple hit a wall in Qualcomm, Samsung Electronics should be the first consideration. But at present, Apple has chosen Intel, which indirectly proves that the cooperation between Apple and Samsung has failed. As for the reason for the failure, it is reported that one of them demanded too much, and eventually the two sides broke up in discord. If this news is true, it is natural for Samsung to take advantage of others when Apple is in trouble. In addition, it is reported that Samsung rejected this cooperation on the grounds of insufficient 5G baseband production capacity. Although Samsung was the first mobile phone manufacturer in the world in 20 18, Samsung's baseband chips were made in Qualcomm, so the production capacity was insufficient. Of course, before the official announcement, these are just anecdotal rumors.
However, for whatever reason, Apple's cooperation with South Qualcomm and Samsung in 5G baseband is hopeless. In the end, we had to settle for the second best and choose the old semiconductor company Intel, but the problem is that Intel is not very good at the research and development of 5G technology, which greatly dragged down the time to market of Apple's 5G products. It is reported that Apple will not be able to produce its own 5G products until next year at the earliest. In the fast-paced mobile phone industry, a slow step almost means losing market opportunities, so Apple's hardware business will be difficult.
In fact, apart from Qualcomm and Samsung, the Balong G5 G chip developed by Huawei in China is also very powerful. However, there is a problem that Huawei and Apple have similar chip business models, both of which are produced and sold by themselves. From the perspective of development concept and production capacity, Huawei is unlikely to provide Apple with 5G baseband. Therefore, the next two years will be two years of continuous decline of Apple hardware products and two years of the rise of Huawei mobile phones.
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There is a simple reason. Qualcomm and Apple are at odds, Samsung and Apple are direct competitors, and Apple can't make the 5G baseband by itself. Now it is normal for Qualcomm and Samsung to use their technological advantages to play the Apple brand.
1, Qualcomm and Apple's patent lawsuit: Now Qualcomm and Apple are locked in a fight, and in 20 18, the China court banned the sale of iPhone, which is the result of this lawsuit. The reason is nothing but money. Qualcomm thinks Apple should pay the patent fee. Apple thinks this patent fee is unreasonable and should not pay this part of the money again. In addition to the litigation of both parties, the final result is also to suppress each other. From then on, Apple stopped using Qualcomm baseband and switched to Intel, while Qualcomm sued Apple for a worldwide ban. In this case, do you think Qualcomm is still willing to give Apple 5G baseband? Do you think Apple is still willing to accept 5G baseband from Qualcomm? Of course, reconciliation between the two sides is not impossible. It's just a matter of money. Who is willing to take a step back, this problem can still be solved.
2. Competition between Samsung and Apple: The sales volume (IDC data) of these two mobile phone companies ranks first and second in the world. Essentially, these two companies are competitors. Although Samsung also OEM A processors for Apple, one code for another. My OEM processor earns your OEM fee, which can also expand my market share, and the production capacity will not be wasted. But the baseband is different, which is the core content.
By providing Apple with 5G baseband, Apple can develop 5G mobile phones. Now there is no baseband, and Apple can't get it out. In this way, Apple will fall behind in the 5G field. For Samsung, this is a direct loss of a competitor. The slower Apple's 5G comes, the more it will help Samsung occupy more markets in this new market, and the market shares of both parties will definitely offset each other. After all, the field of mobile phones can at least be regarded as the field of science and technology. If you slow down, you may slow down step by step, and it will be difficult to catch up in the short term, which may lead to collapse in the long run. Therefore, Samsung has such a good opportunity to attack its opponents and will not miss it in vain.
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Apple has really had a hard time these months. Sales growth rate declined, market share declined, and mobile phone prices continued to fall. However, what makes Apple even more unhappy is that the 5G baseband problem has not been solved.
The contradiction between Apple and Qualcomm is a well-known problem. Apple sued Qualcomm for taking advantage of the market position of modem chips to collect patent fees at will, while Qualcomm retaliated against Apple for frequently applying for patents for its Intel chips. So Apple stopped Qualcomm from using the Qualcomm baseband chip in the iPhone, and Qualcomm still won't stick his hot ass to Apple's cold face.
Because Intel's baseband problem has not been effectively improved, a few days ago, some Apple companies that were badly exposed by the media were trying to contact Samsung. What makes people feel is that Samsung doesn't seem to buy Cook's account. Before, a lack of production capacity completely blocked Apple's door, and Apple's 5G dream was completely broken.
Recently, some media and netizens are discussing whether Apple will develop baseband by itself. Personally, I am pessimistic about this issue. If this 5G baseband can really be built in ten and a half months, Apple will not put down its posture and ask for help everywhere. Apple's current behavior has shown that this is a technology that Apple cannot overcome in the short term. After all, this involves Apple's next product layout. If it can be done, Apple will not sit still for a long time.
Now it seems that only Huawei can provide mature technology for Apple. I wonder if Cook will come to China to experience the mysterious oriental power. Will Huawei sell Cook a face?
Huawei and Samsung respectively launched their own 5G mobile phones MateⅹX and GaIaxy S 10 in March, but Apple was shivering in this chilly early spring because of the lack of 5G baseband.
Why don't Samsung and Qualcomm sell 5G base stations to Apple?
Although the reasons given by Samsung are not completely convincing, there is still some truth. Its own production capacity is insufficient, and it is difficult to supply its own 5G mobile phone. It is understandable that the yield of 5G baseband is low at the initial stage of production. In fact, as we all know, Samsung suffered a waterloo-like rout in the China market and urgently needed to expand into other markets, so it could not provide convenience for its competitor Apple in the production of 5G mobile phones.
Qualcomm doesn't provide Apple with 5G baseband, so it's easier to understand. Because of the patent dispute, Qualcomm attacked Apple in China and German markets, and achieved certain success. Although it doesn't produce mobile phones, Qualcomm can't give its rivals any chance in patent disputes.
As for Huawei, it will not be sold, which is too easy to understand. Ba Long 5000 baseband technology is unique in the world, but how does Huawei sell it to Apple?
Poor apple, find a corner and let your sad tears flow quietly for a while. ...
Why did Qualcomm and Samsung refuse to provide Apple with 5G baseband?
Needless to say, Qualcomm has a grudge. To be honest, only Apple in the world dares to do this to the supply chain. Qualcomm is fed up with apples, that is, if you don't have a baseband, you have to buy it with me, ride on my head and shit, and then you will play hooligans.
After all, Qualcomm is not used by other manufacturers. Qualcomm said that I am a god in front of other manufacturers, and people have to kneel down and lick me when they give me money to buy things. Why should I lick your apple? Therefore, Qualcomm felt uneasy and began to fight with Apple. As we all know, the lawsuit hit China last year.
As for Samsung, I think Samsung wants to sell, but Apple doesn't necessarily want to buy. Samsung's baseband mainly serves its own mobile phone. On the one hand, I am worried about Samsung's production capacity, on the other hand, I am also worried about supporting.
However, it is rumored that Apple now has its own team developing baseband, but we don't know how it is progressing. But for Apple, baseband has always been a short board with strong software and hardware. Now we don't want to rely too much on Qualcomm. We really need to find a feasible way out.
Apple hit a wall everywhere in the 5G baseband. Will Apple make great efforts to develop 5G baseband? Or seek cooperation between Huawei and MediaTek?
Qualcomm attacked Apple all over the world, trying to make it yield and make peace with Qualcomm. However, instead of "giving in", Apple has been active in the antitrust case in Qualcomm, which is bound to bring a heavy blow to Qualcomm. However, Apple's pressure is really not small. When trying to seek Qualcomm's 5G baseband, Qualcomm is naturally proud; When I asked Samsung for help, I was also rejected!
Will Apple really collapse in the 5G era? ! Not long ago, Apple contacted Huawei and tried to get Huawei's help, but it didn't seem to succeed.
Now, the Electronic Times reported that Apple intends to buy 5G baseband chips from Qualcomm and Samsung Electronics. Needless to say, Qualcomm, at that time, I wanted to reconcile, but you ignored me. Now you want 5G baseband, and I can't afford to climb you.
And Samsung has also declined because of insufficient production capacity, which is really ridiculous. Although the relationship between Apple and Samsung is in a competitive stage, there is cooperation in the OEM of screens and processors. Now Samsung rejects Apple on the grounds of insufficient production capacity. It seems that there is indeed a joint effort with Qualcomm to ban Apple on the baseband.
Previously, the 5G baseband XMM 8 160 produced by Intel was delayed, and the 5G version of the iPhone will not be available until 2020. However, whether Intel 5G baseband can come in handy is still unknown.
Therefore, if Apple can't reach an agreement with Huawei, Apple is likely to have two steps: the first step is to develop its own 5G baseband, but it is quite difficult to estimate at this time. Another possibility is to use MediaTek's 5G chip. After all, as a multimode integrated baseband chip, Helio M70 not only supports 5G NR, but also supports 5G independent network and LTE joint networking, and the transmission rate can reach 5Gbps.
So, where do you think Apple should go on 5G? !