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A rich man’s self-made gold jade clothing, five top domestic appraisal experts, and an appraisal report worth an estimated 2.4 billion yuan have also revealed their true colors today. A businessman, a liar with multiple auras such as collector and philanthropist, what role did the five antique appraisal experts play in the series of his deceptions? CCTV's "News 1 1" program broadcast "Antiquities Appraisal of "Siding with the Tiger" on September 6, 2011! ", the following is the transcript of the program:

Explanation:

He defrauded a bank loan of 1 billion and was sentenced to life imprisonment in the first instance. The former super rich man has revealed his true colors today.

Subtitle reminder: After I bought Niu Fuzhong’s jade pieces, I helped him put them into “jade clothes”

Commentator Bai Yansong:

Hello, audience Friends, welcome to the live broadcast of "News 1 1".

Today we are going to focus on the bizarre case of jade clothes with gold threads and jade clothes with silver threads, which are valued at 2.4 billion. But before talking about this matter, let us first pay attention to something that makes you happy, that is, 19,000 rural primary school students in nine counties and districts in Ningxia are provided with free lunches. Let’s hear how the children will treat such good news. .

Reporter:

Vermicelli and beef, do you think today’s rice is delicious?

Student 1:

Delicious.

Reporter:

Can I eat it at home?

Student 1:

No.

Reporter:

Were you able to eat it at school before?

Student 2:

No.

Reporter:

Is this the first time you eat it today?

Student 2:

Yes.

Reporter:

Are you happy?

Student 2:

Excited.

Bai Yansong:

Ningxia is not a rich autonomous region, but people have made great efforts to solve the problem of free lunches for rural primary school students. What about other wealthy provinces, cities, and autonomous regions? When faced with the same problem, have you ever looked in the mirror of Ningxia and figured out what you should do? In fact, Ningxia needs to further promote this matter, because it will be fully rolled out by 2012. How much money will it cost? Spend 300 million. 300 million a year can solve the problem of free lunch for all rural primary school students in Ningxia Autonomous Region. These 300 million are really worth it. If 300 million is compared with the news events we are going to pay attention to today, we Let me cite a number, 2.4 billion, which is enough for rural primary school students in Ningxia to eat free lunches for eight years. However, this 2.4 billion is a scam, and top cultural relic identification experts are involved. Come on, replica chanel watches, let’s pay attention to this matter together.

Commentary:

Donghua Golden Tower is located in the inner alley of Guang’anmen, Beijing. It is a prime location with a lot of land and village gold. Unlike now, before 2008, it was also called by the media. "The number one unfinished building in Beijing". The person who created this "Beijing's No. 1 unfinished building" is Xie Genrong, a former super rich man, collector, and philanthropist. He is currently being detained at the No. 1 Detention Center in Beijing. In December 2009, Xie Genrong was found guilty of loan fraud by the first instance and sentenced to life imprisonment, deprived of political rights for life, and confiscated all personal property.

At present, Xie Gennong’s case is still in the second trial stage, but today’s big news is related to this case, that is, these two pieces of gold collected by Xie Genrong were valued at 2.4 billion yuan by five domestic appraisal experts. The jade clothes showed their original shape. More than a dozen of its companies spent tens of millions to rent offices in the Diaoyutai Hotel. They claimed to own three Mercedes-Benzes and a Rolls-Royce, and spent more than 100 million just buying antiques. Xie Genrong was once the chairman and president of the Walson Group. He was a well-known tycoon. Since 2003, he has been frequently listed on various Chinese rich list, with assets reaching 700 million. Now it seems that apart from cheating, Xie Genrong has no recommended tricks for getting rich.

"Legal Evening News" reporter Fu Zhong:

In 2000, he got a real estate project called Donghua Golden Tower. At that time, he and another company agreed that the joint price was 320 million yuan. However, because the Watson Group itself had no financial strength and all its registered capital was raised, the 320 million yuan was a lot for him. A sum of funds was basically unaffordable. In order to realize this project, he thought of fake loans.

Commentary:

Borrowing from banks was also the beginning of Xie Genrong's deception. At the end of 1999, in order to win the Donghua Golden Tower project in Xuanwu District, Beijing, Xie Genrong had to pay a total of *** 320 million yuan in transfer fees and subsequent development funds. In September 2009, Xie Genrong used false certification documents to sign 566 "Fake Personal Housing Loan Contracts" with 7 Beijing branches of China Construction Bank. He defrauded 670 million yuan in loans, and still has 550 million yuan that he cannot repay. During this process, faced with the fact that the huge loan could not be repaid, Yan Linzhuang, president of Beijing Construction Bank Economic and Technological Development Zone Branch, and Zhao Feng, deputy president, helped Xie Genrong prepare false statements and issued acceptances totaling 456 million yuan. draft.

Buying luxury cars and mansions, gambling, buying antiques, eating, drinking and having fun, etc. This is Xie Genrong's life after he was saddled with huge debts. According to his confession, he spent nearly 500 million yuan in loans, most of which was spent on crazy personal waste.

Bai Yansong:

In such a deception process, several roles played a very, very important part. First of all, we need to popularize common sense. What is the reason for the golden jade clothes? Think about it: a jade garment with gold threads and a jade garment with silver threads, together they are valued at 2.4 billion. Come on, Ma Weidu will help us popularize this common sense.

"The highest level of ancient funeral attire is the jade garment with golden threads. The jade garments of Liu Sheng, Prince Jing of Zhongshan, and his wife Dou Wan were unearthed from the Han Tombs in Mancheng, Hebei Province in 1968. The most famous one was the jade garments of Liu Sheng and his wife Dou Wan, which shocked the country at that time. Among them, the jade garments of Liu Sheng It uses 2,498 pieces of jade and about 1,100 grams of gold wire. Dou Wan’s jade clothing uses 2,160 pieces of jade and about 700 grams of gold wire. Its luxury is breathtaking. "

This is a common sense of the past. Our coverage, there are very practical reminders next, please pay attention, this is written by Ma Weidu. "Since then, the jade clothes with golden threads have been talked about among the people. For decades, I have seen all kinds of jade clothes, and every holder of them speaks of them as miraculous, as if they are not afraid of beheading. If you express your disapproval, , the holder will say that a certain great expert has issued a certificate, how can an expert who has been trained by the country for a lifetime still be blind?" Then I will pick up the last word of Mr. Ma Weidu's "wrong eye". If many experts are not distracted, just In order to make money by using acupuncture points, you must definitely do that.

In the process of such a trap, we will find such an interesting phenomenon. In the current legal environment, it is indeed becoming increasingly difficult for small-time crooks to get away with it. So many liars think, I might as well turn myself into a big liar. It is not easy to turn the fake into the real, because the fake is ultimately fake, so the real thing must appear in the process, for example To be honest, some antique appraisers with backgrounds participated in this event. Look at these names. Mr. Shi Shuqing, who passed away in 2007, was a researcher at the Museum of Chinese History, deputy chairman of the National Cultural Relics Appraisal Committee, and president of the Chinese Collectors Association.

Yang Boda, former deputy director of the Palace Museum and a famous jade expert. Wang Wenxiang, director of the World Cultural Relics and Artworks Appraisal and Evaluation Committee. Li Jinsong, former secretary-general of the China Gem and Jade Association. Yang Fuxu, director of the Gemstone Identification Center of Peking University. How about it? Is this name famous enough? When such a name was placed in front of me, my first instinct was to randomly pick up a stone on the road and tell me that it was worth 100 million. I guess I would believe it. Of course, it’s not that big of a peril for me to believe it, but it would be more troublesome for the bank to believe it. A turning point in this matter was that the bank had realized that the entrepreneur had a problem, so the person in charge of the bank went directly to the entrepreneur to talk about the situation. Unexpectedly, the entrepreneur took them to see the situation after talking for a while. He bought jade clothes with gold threads and jade clothes with silver threads, and then provided them with the names of these five experts, saying that they had identified them and they were worth 2.4 billion. The bank immediately believed it was true, and then gave them a loan of 50 million to 450 million. And how much interest fee did these experts receive? Hundreds of thousands. You see, hundreds of thousands, everyone put it in their own pockets, but in the end the country’s total loss was 50 million 450 million. This is a huge formula that cannot be equated. Okay, let’s demobilize next. process.

Commentary:

Shi Shuqing was a researcher at the China Museum of History, deputy director of the National Cultural Relics Appraisal Committee, and president of the China Collectors Association. Yang Boda, former deputy director of the Palace Museum and a famous jade expert. Wang Wenxiang, director of the World Cultural Relics and Artworks Appraisal and Evaluation Committee. Li Jinsong, former secretary-general of the China Gem and Jade Association. Yang Fuxu, director of the Gemstone Identification Center of Peking University. It was these five well-known appraisal experts who valued two homemade so-called jade clothes with gold threads at 2.4 billion yuan through the glass without being able to see them.

In the indictment of the First Branch of the Beijing People’s Procuratorate, we saw the testimony of witness Niu Fuzhong. "The 'Jade Clothes' were strung together by Niu Fuzhong using pieces of jade clothes given to him by Xie Genrong. They were not worth much. Xie Genrong insisted on finding experts to appraise and evaluate the 'Jade Clothes', so Niu Fuzhong went to Wang Wenxiang, and Wang Wenxiang went to Yang Boda and Yang Fuxu. et al. Later, these five experts wrote a written description of "Yu Yi", and the estimated price was: 2.4 billion. Xie Genrong paid the experts hundreds of thousands of evaluation fees. "How could five experts who are probably the best in the country fabricate one thing?" Did you get a hole in your golden jade clothes? It was this appraisal that is still controversial today that actually helped Xie Genrong obtain a huge loan from the bank.

(Telephone interview)

Yang Boda, former deputy director of the Palace Museum and a famous jade expert:

2.4 billion, which is almost unprecedented. For dozens of minutes, even though I walked around and looked at it, I didn't take it out of the glass cabinet.

Reporter:

Didn’t you ask to take it out and take a look at it?

Yang Boda:

I don’t ask for this, because it’s not convenient to see through the glass. Everyone took a look at it together. When it was over, it was time to sign. After signing, we had a meal and left.

Bai Yansong:

He is indeed an expert, very worthy of his reputation. At that time, all the gold jade clothes were placed in a glass cabinet. After a few seconds, several experts went around in a big circle, and then there were some details. For example, during the interview, Li Jinsong said, Mr. Shi ( Shi Shuqing), a great authority. Mr. Shi said that this value is very high, and I respect what Mr. Shi said. Then Yang Fuxu, director of the Gemstone Appraisal Center of Peking University, said that Shi Shuqing is the recognized boss, and we will follow whatever Shi Shuqing says. Then they all signed the value of 2.4 billion, used what the expert said just now, had a meal and then withdrew. But the consequences of such a story were very serious. Later, many people asked, didn't you pay attention to it? Looking at two of the replies, Yang Fuxu said: "It's not that I can't refute, but I didn't consider refuting... it's decent..." Li Jinsong said: "He (Shi Shuqing) is authoritative. I always believe that our opinions are only reference and do not have legal responsibility.

Here I want to provide you with a detail. Among these five top appraisal experts, only one has passed away now, that is Mr. Shi Shuqing. Therefore, during the interview, the other The four experts all put the blame on Shi Lao, so Ma Weidu also thought that this was a bit too unkind, how could he go there to blame it?

But on the other hand, let’s start with this. Not to mention whether it is honest or not, there is no way to refute it in such a process. As for face, if we regard face as an excuse, I don’t think we can take the unspoken rules in our daily life and regard it as an excuse in such a case. It seems to be a truth, a rule, something that can even shirk one's responsibility. Unspoken rules are unspoken rules. If we don't like it, it would be even worse to turn it into an explicit rule. Since when it comes to face, there are actually some. When facing the elderly, the youngest of these five old gentlemen is over 70 years old this year. Logically speaking, we should not say many very strict words, but when faced with such ridiculous things, we want to say that it is true It's a bit disrespectful. This "respect" is the dignity of academics and the dignity that everyone should have. In addition, it has brought a great loss to the country.

But they. What is their position? We might as well take a look at what they said in interviews in the past two days. Li Jinsong said: "I feel that the bank is also confused, why did it believe him so easily? Alas, I am saddened by the loss this has caused to the country. "Wang Wenxiang said: "We (experts involved) are not in danger, because gold is valuable but jade is priceless. We didn't know he would use this thing for a loan. Yang Fuxu said: "Who said it was fake?" Can anyone make a final conclusion about this (gold-lined jade garment) now? "Shi Shuqing's widow said: "Identification is a process of scientific understanding and gradual understanding. It is impossible for no one to make mistakes. Ten years ago, based on the literature and technology controlled at the time, it was believed to be true. Ten years later, there will be new information. consciousness. "But this jade garment with gold threads and jade threads with silver threads was bought by some jade pieces and finally strung together. I'm afraid it is really ridiculous when it reaches 2.4 billion. These old gentlemen can be said to be authoritative quasi-experts who are smashing their own. The job of your disciples and disciples. Because you committed such a ridiculous thing, others cannot trust your other disciples and disciples. Moreover, the top beam is not straight and the bottom beam is crooked. In the process of our antique appraisal, it has actually become Everyone is unaware of such a ridiculous phenomenon.

But when I said this, I was thinking that I just told you a detail. At that time, the bank was already suspicious and came to talk to him. As a result, he started to give him loans after showing such a gold-lined jade garment and the appraisal certificate. So what role did these old gentlemen play in the whole loan fraud process? Should they bear any legal responsibility? Listen to what legal experts say

(Telephone interview)

Xu Xilong, a lawyer at Dacheng Law Firm:

He was not an expert in this case beforehand. It is clear that Xie wanted to use the appraisal report as a tool to defraud loans. Therefore, because the experts did not know that he had the purpose of violating the law at the time, it is difficult to say what crime he committed. I think it did not constitute a crime and he should not bear this criminal responsibility. This is an issue of professional ethics for experts. If you evaluate him at 1 billion or 3 billion, this may be within the discretion of the experts, because there is no unified market standard to measure it.

Bai Yansong:

After hearing what the experts said, I felt a little cold. In other words, we can only make some comments on the moral level to make some old experts feel a little better, but I am afraid that this will be over. Can things really go away? There are quite a lot of such absurd things in our antique cultural relic appraisal market.

Commentary:

Our eyes temporarily turned away from this ridiculous golden jade garment. Let’s see how many expensive fakes are around us. Right now, the “King of Pots” in the Southern Song Dynasty Official Kiln Museum is facing fierce doubts. Some experts have put it in question. It was rated as a first-class cultural relic by the Appraisal Committee, but some experts claimed that it was a fake.

(DV shooting)

Shi Rong, lecturer of the Southern Song Dynasty Official Kiln Museum in Hangzhou:

You simply cannot find such a large piece of Changsha kiln Hold the pot.

Reporter:

Rarely.

Shi Rong:

That’s right, so it’s called the Pot King, don’t you think so?

Yang Jingrong, researcher at the Palace Museum:

We conclude that it should basically be a modern imitation produced after the 1990s.

Commentary:

The treasure is still a fake. The appraisal certificate issued by the museum, the four appraisal experts include Zhang Pusheng, a researcher at the Nanjing Museum, and Zhu Boqian, a researcher at the Zhejiang Provincial Institute of Cultural Relics and Archeology, are both respected by the academic community. As an ancestor, there is also Feng Xiaoqi, who, like the questioner Yang Jingrong, is also from the Palace Museum.

Feng Xiaoqi, researcher at the Palace Museum:

There was no signature at the time. Maybe I need a certificate afterwards and then find a few people. It doesn’t matter to me.

Commentary:

Behind the war of words, treasures or fakes, there should be huge economic benefits. On the one hand, there is a surge in collecting enthusiasm, and on the other hand, there are an endless stream of appraisal experts. China’s cultural relics Is it true or false, based on vision and knowledge, or qualifications and courage?

Famous porcelain research expert in China:

Nowadays, we basically find three or five experts to look at it together, and then the normal elders ask for (appraisal) first. This level of authority in our industry is determined by the fact that if the teachers all say it is right and individual students also say it is right, that's it. It's rare that the same group of experts competes with each other to become blushing and thick-necked.

Commentary:

Scientific authority and human appraisal, why can people in the appraisal industry be very kind? Top experts rely on sight, touch, feeling and lessons. Why can it become the rule in the appraisal world? In this regard, even Liao Maolin, director of Sichuan Maolin Museum, suffered a big loss.

Liao Maolin, Director of Sichuan Maolin Museum:

Experts say it is right, so I will collect it according to this standard. At this time, the experts finally came back (looked again) and found out from my own research that it was fake, relatively fake, and now the millions were gone.

Commentary:

As a big country with cultural relics, my country’s cultural relics appraisal qualification certification system has not yet been established, but many appraisal experts have already gained huge amounts of money from appraisal activities one after another. benefit.

Tan Ping, Director of the Social Cultural Relics Division of the State Administration of Cultural Heritage:

Because the appraisal qualification certification and appraisal action supervision mechanism have not yet been established, many so-called appraisal agencies and experts seek illegal benefits. Financial interests, casually issue irresponsible appraisal certificates.

Jieruo:

Some people are asking today, with advanced science and technology, is it really that difficult to authenticate cultural relics? Why are various scientific detection methods, such as thermoluminescence and chemical composition analysis, difficult to promote in practice? Why can a large number of fakes in the collection market be confused? Why can there be a strange phenomenon in the appraisal industry that a homemade gold jade garment can be valued at 2.4 billion yuan?

Zhang Yanyan, staff officer of the Zhongbo Cultural Relics Inspection and Appraisal Center:

Experts say I say it is from the Song Dynasty, some say it is from the Ming Dynasty, some say it is from the Qing Dynasty. It is up to the experts themselves to decide .

Bai Yansong:

In many news events, we can always hear a saying that is very characteristic of our own face, but sometimes it is just for such a face. If you cannot keep your academic bottom line, you will end up in a very humiliating reality.

I think four of these five are still alive. For their academic life, I am afraid this is a very, very embarrassing thing. It should be a warning to the younger generations, but there are still some problems in this process. The details make me puzzled. For example, when an expert involved was interviewed, he used the word "academic freedom". I think this is the biggest blow to the word "academic freedom". We I respect academic freedom very much, but I think this is an overflow of freedom that has no bottom line and is immoral.

In addition, during the process of being interviewed like this and after the incident came out, it seemed that not too many truths were told. Some experts said that they only received three to five thousand, and some experts said that they received ten thousand. Some experts said it was the most he had ever received. In fact, when we look back at these experts, we still quote a passage from Ma Weidu, "Most of our experts rely on their units. The greater the reputation of the unit, the more valuable the experts will be. Without official positions, many experts are ordinary people, so the introduction of experts They say so-and-so museum experts, not so-and-so experts. Such experts who have overstretched the credit of their organizations for many years are wandering around today. They can’t help a lot but only a small help. . This 'respect' should be in quotation marks. In the past, the most valuable dignity of an expert was not technology, and Chinese literati have always adhered to this principle; today, it is ridiculous to pay a mere few thousand yuan for an appraisal, experts, what a shame!"

We need to discuss this with Mr. Ma Weidu. Nowadays, sometimes the price is not just a few thousand yuan, but maybe tens of thousands of yuan, etc. Is it true that conscience can follow the appreciation to determine whether it is really worth it or not? Already? Come and listen to experts in our field evaluate such a strange phenomenon

(Telephone interview)

Long Can, a senior observer in the cultural relics industry:

Why do we Those so-called experts and masters in identifying gentlemen are always reluctant to formalize this issue? The development of instrument identification in our country, especially the Forbidden City, especially many so-called large museums, is very slow. We have even spent a lot of money to buy such instruments, and we don’t even have a basic database now. Because of these masters, he tightly holds his right to speak, because once the instruments are widely used, researched well, and used in large numbers, they will lose their right to speak in the market. What does losing the right to speak in the market mean? For example, they can now earn tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands by performing acupuncture. In the future, a large number of instruments will be used and the cost will be very low. If you say that an appraisal only costs a few thousand yuan, and they "pop" it will be revealed. I am happy to come to the trouble of experts again, and there is no 100% guarantee.

Bai Yansong:

There are two more details I can provide. First, relevant experts said that when cultural relics or antiques are being appraised, the so-called experts receive money based on the final valuation of 1 or 5. Therefore, we can imagine that this is to encourage many experts to evaluate the value of this thing. The higher the value, the more money you will get, but selfishness is still inevitable. For example, if this thing is fake and may only cost 100 yuan, then he can't make any money. If you want to say that this thing is good, it is unconscionable. If you get 200,000 and get 5, it is a lot of money. Then it is quite scary. Also, in fact, in the market now, it is like walking around. Sometimes in order to identify something, you find a so-called expert in the industry. He calls a few old buddies together and walks around and takes away the money. And there may be a lot of money. Everyone has forgotten everything, so this is really scary.

Come and see what some of our Weibo friends are writing. Wei Yingjie said on this matter, "Cultural relic experts make fun of personal credibility, and the role of an expert is worse than a machine." At the beginning, everyone advocated using more scientific tools for this kind of appraisal, but if you are really superstitious, they will Wouldn't his job be destroyed? But we must smash such an unstable job, otherwise the job of social integrity will be smashed into pieces. “Peer evaluation is originally the most stringent standard in academia. If peer evaluation is reduced to a friendly evaluation, the relevant industries will have to rely more on regulatory constraints.

"But our relevant laws and regulations in the appraisal of cultural relics and antiques are not sound. "At present, the important shortcoming of the appraisal industry is that there are no perfect laws and regulations to 're-appraisal' expert appraisals. Antiques have always been counterfeit, and experts who commit fraud should be punished as involved in the manufacture and sale of counterfeit goods. "In other words, he expressed the hope that certain such precautions can be provided at the legal level.

At the end of today's program, I can make another hypothesis. In fact, when this hypothesis appeared in my mind During this period, I broke out in a cold sweat, and then a series of stories appeared. If this entrepreneur had not been squandering, he would have used such a scam and finally obtained a loan from the bank, and his business would have been very good, and he would have become famous. If a person who has buried all his bad past is now even recognized by officials and can win various awards in the market, then we will think about it, is it true? Are some original sins concealed by us? Will other similar incidents happen?

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