Is Huawei's Kirin chip a domestic chip with its own technology?

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What is a domestic chip with independent technology? This kind of chip should reach the standard of autonomous control!

Batumi/Wassenaar agreement in western countries can strangle Huawei's Kirin processor in an instant, because Samsung and TSMC have to implement the agreement regardless of arm or Qualcomm!

Huawei's Kirin processor can't be developed and produced without these!

Therefore, an independent and controllable chip like Godson can really be called a domestic chip!

At present, SMIC 14nm process has been put into trial production, including Shanghai New Silicon Rod, Chongqing Super Silicon Round Crystal, Ningbo Jiangfeng Metal Target, Beijing Ke Hua Photoresist, Anji Microelectronics Grinding Fluid, CSIC Special Gas 7 18, Chengdu Luwei Photoelectric Mask, SMIC etching machine, etc.

In other words, except mask aligner, China has caught up with the world's advanced level in most fields of chip manufacturing! Although mask aligner is still imported, the overall localization level has been greatly improved!

It is said that Xiaomi's surging s2 chip will launch SMIC 14nm process! I hope Huawei's Kirin processor can also use SMIC's 14nm process instead of pursuing TSMC's 7nm process!

By the way, hsinchu city, where TSMC is located, is the base camp of Taiwan independence and the main supporter of Democratic Progressive Party!

Is Huawei's Kirin chip a domestic chip with its own technology? Personally, I think this should be regarded as a domestic chip with Huawei's own technology. Of course, if everything must be made by itself before it can be called domestic products, it is estimated that it will take decades to come out, and it is not certain whether it can be made or not, even if it can be used by people. If you really do that, it is estimated that the day lily is cold and the market is divided up.

Although the core architecture of Huawei Kirin chip comes from the authorization of ARM, a chip is not only CPU, but also includes GPU, baseband, DSP, ISP and NPU. It can be said that the core architecture has been modified and more things have been added, which constitutes a "system" project of Kirin's SOC. Even under this authorized ARM public architecture, it has taken so many years to adjust its overall architecture, and finally better chips like Kirin 970 and Kirin 980 are available, which shows that it is not easy.

It is not Huawei's exclusive patent to develop its own chips by using the ARM public version. Samsung's Orion, Apple's A series and Qualcomm's Snapdragon all came in this way. Recently, it has become the standard road of mobile phone chip research and development. At a certain time, I will inevitably carry out self-architecture transformation or design and development. This is the road that Qualcomm has taken, and Huawei should take the road of transformation from periphery to core in this respect. At present, the built-in NPU adopts domestic CAMBRIAN research and development achievements, and the GPU is also a completely self-developed achievement. Maybe it's natural to develop the core at some point.

The advantage of large international enterprises is to use global technology and brains to serve themselves and establish R&D centers around the world to serve themselves. If foreigners participate in R&D design, it seems that it is not made in China. Even companies with R&D institutions overseas rarely have their own products. As long as the final intellectual property rights are in the name of your own company, that's fine. As for processing, there is no way at present, only companies like TSMC can process it for us, and simple mainland processing enterprises can't meet the requirements.

If everything goes from design, R&D, manufacturing, etc. It has to be made by China people, so it is made in China. It is estimated that when we make it, the market will have changed long ago, and even the soup will not be left for you. Who wants to do such a thing? Change while doing, change while doing, catch up with the pace of the market, make money and reinvest, and then make money, forming a virtuous circle. It is estimated that the real domestic products will come.

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It can only be regarded as Huawei's own production, and the core architecture is not Huawei's property right at all.

Do your own shell, core components or OEM. As for intellectual property ... does China have the concept of intellectual property?

What is made on the basis of authorized public edition cannot be regarded as a product independently developed. The reason is very simple. Self-developed products will not rely on the authorization of others to obtain the production and distribution rights of products. Specific to Kirin chip, once people terminate the public license of RAM, no matter how many complicated improvements or upgrades have been made to this chip, removing this basic thing is nothing more than a waste! What is independent research and development? Too reluctant, isn't it?

It's made in China, of course. The design was completed by Huawei Hisilicon, and the production was completed by Taiwan Province TSMC. Isn't this made in China? Some people say that Kirin chips use a lot of foreign technologies, including architecture and baseband, which can't be considered domestic. Excuse me, in today's internationalization, how many multinational companies are not global sourcing and manufacturing? Isn't this the case with world-famous companies such as Boeing, Qualcomm, Apple and Volkswagen?

If a commodity is completed by one country in principle, design, manufacturing and other aspects, without trade and division of labor, the progress of the world will be much slower. The inventor of computer is American john von neumann, the inventor of automobile is Carl Ben, and the inventor of electric light is Edison. Are the electric lights produced in other countries really not completely domestic? That's obviously not the case.

In today's globalization, everything from airplanes and cars to watches and toys is basically produced in international cooperation. There are only two countries that engage in production behind closed doors: African tribes in a natural economic state and countries that are excluded from sanctions by the international system. Other countries will actively or passively integrate into the international division of labor and trading system. As early as more than 200 years ago, Adam Smith made it clear that "division of labor and trade are the source of economic growth".

It can be said that no multinational enterprise can engage in production behind closed doors, whether it is the United States, Japanese or China. Take the aircraft giant Boeing Company for example. As the big brother of aircraft manufacturing industry, Boeing has always been a model in integrating and utilizing global resources. Take Boeing 787 as an example, it has more than 2.3 million parts, and its suppliers are all over five continents, with 550 suppliers in more than 70 countries.

Speaking of chips, isn't Qualcomm, another giant, also upgrading, and TSMC and Samsung are here? Its Snapdragon chip is not made in China, is it?

First of all, Kirin chip is definitely a domestic chip, but it does use a lot of foreign technology!

After ZTE's sales ban, more and more people began to pay attention to domestic chips, and the HiSilicon Kirin chip independently developed by Huawei naturally became the focus of public attention. Some people broke the news that Haisi Kirin is actually a technology provided by foreign countries. Even said: "If there is no foreign technology, Huawei's chip may be as big as a schoolbag!" What the hell is going on here?

Kirin chip comes from this: ARM provides public core, Huawei redesigns architecture, communication baseband, TSMC mass production. To make a proper analogy, the Kirin chip is like a car. The frame and chassis of the whole vehicle are provided by ARM, and other circuits such as lights and throttle are developed by Huawei. Finally, all the design schemes and technologies are handed over to TSMC, which carries out production and processing on its behalf.

Let's take Kirin 970 as an example. Its four large cores A73 and four small cores A53 are designed by chip design company ARM, and the GPU also uses ARM's Mail-G72.

Speaking of this, many readers may be a little disappointed. But in fact, well-known chips include Apple's A series chips, Samsung's Orion, Qualcomm and so on. All adopt the ARM kernel. If so, everyone is not fully self-developed.

Secondly, the use of ARM public core does not mean that there is no technology, which can be seen from the performance comparison among Apple A series, Samsung Orion and Huawei Kirin. Why can everyone use the public architecture of ARM, and only these companies can develop chips?

As the world's largest manufacturer of communication equipment, Huawei naturally has its own communication baseband. This completely got rid of Qualcomm, especially in the 5G era, Huawei's advantages will become more and more obvious.

British architecture, Japanese technology research, TSMC technology, Huawei brand.

If the A-series CPU counts, Huawei certainly counts.

Not strictly speaking.