From Fit to Zhixuan, from Accord to Camry, from CR-V to RAV4 Rongfang, etc., Honda and Toyota compete against each other in every segment of the model. The "Yu Liang Battle" is like this The story keeps happening.
Nowadays, their front line extends to hybrid models. The Toyota Corolla/Ralink dual-engine has been launched for many years, and its sales are enough to make people jealous. At this level, Honda has also added its own model-Lingpai. Hybrid.
As a latecomer, let’s find out through comparison whether the overall strength of the Lingpai Hybrid can compete with the Leiling Duoqing.
Round 1: Who is better, i-MMD or THS?
As we all know, Toyota was an early car company to develop hybrid technology and has applied for a long-term license for this THS hybrid system. The patent of time (currently expired and shared) ensures Toyota's technological leadership for a period of time.
Under Toyota's patent barriers, many car companies can only find new ways. In this process, Honda is one of the few car companies to break Toyota's blockade. The i-MMD hybrid system it launched is both simple and efficient. , but the debate over which of the two hybrid systems is stronger has never stopped since its birth.
ECVT structural differences
Toyota's THS hybrid technology has developed to the fourth generation. The original dual-motor single-axis layout has been changed to a dual-axis layout, and the No. 2 motor The reduction mechanism of the motor and the motor adopts a parallel shaft design.
The power output of the electric motor is still connected to the engine and two permanent magnet motors through a planetary gear structure. The motor instantly increases the speed to achieve smooth power output.
The new structural layout makes the E-CVT smaller in size. The original planetary gear set, parking gear gear and countershaft driving gear are all integrated into a multi-functional gear. , the gear ratio has also been optimized, making it not only smaller but also more efficient.
In contrast, the Honda i-MMD system is a bit unreasonably simple. The engine and motor are coupled through a clutch, and the various components in the system are connected with a fixed gear ratio, without the need for a transmission mechanism. Moreover, the engine can directly drive the vehicle forward, reducing energy loss in transmission components and achieving higher fuel efficiency.
At the same time, the high-power drive motor used in the i-MMD system has stronger power output, making the entire system more powerful. This is one of the main reasons why it is called a sports hybrid system. .
Compared with Toyota's THS system, Honda's i-MMD system is fundamentally different in structure. They are both equipped with two motors, but there is only one motor involved in driving the two power systems, except for In addition to the drive motor, the other motor of the Lingpai hybrid is mainly used to generate electricity, while the other motor of the Ralink hybrid not only generates electricity, but also adjusts the engine speed through the planetary gear set to balance the engine power output.
Secondly, Ralink’s hybrid system focuses more on the output of the engine. The motor power is not high. In most cases, it works in hybrid mode. The motor adjusts the engine speed to keep it constant. Work in a productive zone.
Lingpai's hybrid system is more motor-driven in daily driving. The engine does not participate in direct drive and acts as a "range extender". Its acceleration is stronger; while at high speeds Under working conditions, the clutch combined with the engine can directly drive the vehicle, and the engine works more efficiently.
In general, Honda's i-MMD system is constantly switching power sources when working, while Toyota's THS is constantly adjusting the mixing ratio of each power source.
Differences between engines and motors
There are also differences between Toyota and Honda in terms of engine matching. Toyota is usually equipped with a large-displacement Atkinson engine, although Honda is also equipped with an Atkinson engine. engine, but its displacement is smaller. , which is mainly determined by the difference in their hybrid working logic.
The Ralink hybrid is still equipped with a 1.8L Atkinson engine. Compared with the old model, its engine power data has been fine-tuned, mainly to adapt to the National VI emission standards.
The maximum power of this engine is 72kW/98Ps, the peak torque is 142N·m, the total power of the motor is 53kW, the peak torque is 163N·m, and the comprehensive maximum power of the hybrid system is 90kW. .
Lingpai Hybrid uses a 1.5L naturally aspirated engine. In response to hybrid needs, its engine power has been significantly reduced and the Atkinson cycle has been added for the purpose of saving fuel.
In terms of power data, this engine has a maximum power of 80kW/109Ps and a peak torque of 134N·m; working with the engine is an electric motor with a maximum power of 96kW/131Ps and a peak torque of 267N·m. The simultaneous output of the engine and electric motor can produce a maximum power of 113kW/154Ps.
Battery Differences
In addition to changes in the motor and gear layout, Ralink Hybrid uses a more compact and lighter high-performance nickel-metal hydride battery. The energy density of the battery is significantly improved. The battery can also be placed under the rear seats without taking up trunk space.
Lingpai Hybrid uses a ternary lithium battery with a battery capacity of 1.2kWh. Its size can also be controlled smaller. It is located behind the rear seats (on the rear suspension). Similarly Does not affect trunk space.
Round 2: Fuel consumption in actual combat, who can talk on paper
In terms of the working logic of the hybrid system, the Ralink hybrid system focuses on the output of the engine and works in hybrid mode in most cases. The Lingpai hybrid system is more motor-driven in daily driving, so which of the two hybrid systems is more fuel-efficient needs to be compared.
In order to restore the true fuel consumption levels of the two vehicles to the greatest extent, we took into account the variables caused by human factors during the test. The starting point and end point were set at the same gas station and the same oil gun was used. , the driver was changed halfway through, and the air conditioner was kept at 24°C.
The road conditions we tested included urban expressways, urban ordinary roads and congested sections during peak hours.
In the end, the two vehicles drove for 4 hours and 32 minutes at an average speed of 33km/h. The Ralink hybrid traveled 152.3km and the Lingpai hybrid traveled 151.8 kilometers. In terms of fuel consumption, the Ralink hybrid is 3.8L/100km and the Lingpai hybrid is 4.1L/100km.
We went back to the same gas station and the same refueling gun. The Ralink Hybrid added 5.96L, and the Lingpai Hybrid added 6.26L. Obviously, the Ralink Hybrid added a smaller amount of fuel. .
Converted into fuel consumption per 100 kilometers based on the amount of refueling, the Lingpai hybrid has a fuel consumption of 4.1L per 100 kilometers, and the Ralink hybrid has a fuel consumption of 3.9L per 100 kilometers.
Round 3: Who has better performance
Through the actual fuel consumption measurement, we know that the fuel consumption of the Ralink hybrid is better, and in terms of performance, the Lingpai hybrid is better. It's time to get back into the game.
As can be seen in the previous power parameter table, although the engine displacement of the Lingpai hybrid is small, the engine power is greater than that of the Ralink hybrid. The power and torque data of the motor are also the same. The Lingpai hybrid is stronger, so there is no doubt that the Lingpai hybrid will have better acceleration performance.
Acceleration from 100km/h
If you pay attention, you will find that Honda will give its hybrid models the name Sport Hybrid. Indeed, its acceleration performance will be stronger Some.
During the acceleration test, the driving mode was switched to the sports mode. At this time, the engine was on standby and the accelerator pedal was fully depressed. The front wheels did not slip significantly at the moment of starting. The electric motor responded quickly and the torque burst out abundantly. .
There is no gear shifting process during acceleration, so the smoothness is good. The final acceleration result was 9.01 seconds.
In comparison, the Ralink Hybrid's power is much weaker. The Ralink Hybrid's front wheels will not slip when starting at full power, and the power output is smooth during the entire acceleration process, but there will be no overall Too strong a sense of acceleration.
In the end, its acceleration from 100 kilometers to 100 kilometers was 10.87 seconds, which was nearly 2 seconds slower than the Lingpai hybrid.
Hundred-Kilometer Braking
For the braking part, Lingpai Hybrid uses a front ventilated disc and a rear solid disc brake configuration. The brake pedal feels tight and the braking force is even and strong. Powerful, but the overall braking posture is not that good, and the front suspension is significantly compressed.
During the braking test, kinetic energy recovery also produced a certain amount of braking assistance. The final braking distance of 100km/h-0 was 39.30 meters, which was a good performance.
The Ralink hybrid brakes with full force, but the posture is also not good-looking, and the nod is obvious.
In terms of the final braking performance, its braking performance was 40.98 meters, which was also not as good as the Lingpai hybrid.
Round 4: Who is more comfortable to drive
Although the E-CVT structure of Ralink Hybrid has been adjusted, the overall working logic has not changed. It is mainly driven by an electric motor. When the vehicle speed increases, the engine will intervene and enter the hybrid state.
So in stop-and-go traffic conditions in the city, the motor's fast starting characteristics are most vividly demonstrated. In medium and low speed road conditions, the combined power output of the engine and motor will still give you enough confidence during occasional rapid acceleration and overtaking, but of course it will not give you a strong feeling of pushing back.
At medium and high speeds, rapid acceleration will be much more forced, and the roar of the engine will be much more obvious. This is subject to the power of the engine and motor.
In terms of driving modes, Ralink Hybrid provides four driving modes to choose from: ECO, normal, PWR and EV.
In ECO mode, its power output is very mild; in normal mode, the car will not be tired when driving, and the vehicle can achieve a balance between performance and fuel consumption. PWR mode is its sports mode. At this time, the hybrid system will become relatively active, the throttle sensitivity is high, and it will focus more on power output.
EV mode is also the pure electric mode. Although its pure electric range is short, providing pure electric mode allows you to freely choose under certain working conditions without wasting fuel.
The overall working logic of Lingpai Hybrid is to focus more on the use of motors. Therefore, Lingpai Hybrid will drive more like an electric vehicle. The power of the motor is much stronger, and the speed range of pure electric drive is also wider. Big.
However, due to the small capacity of the battery, pure electric drive does not last long. At this time, the engine needs to step in for charging.
Since the Honda engine is only 1.5L, the power adjustment is stronger than the Ralink hybrid 1.8L engine, and it uses the Atkinson cycle, so the engine speed when charging is Relatively high, the roar of the engine at high speeds will be more annoying, and the engine sound will be significantly louder than that of the Ralink hybrid.
In terms of driving modes, Lingpai Hybrid also provides four driving modes, namely NORMAL, ECON, SPORT, and EV. Different modes will have different power response adjustments.
In NORMAL mode, the engine's power output is "sealed" to a certain extent. The engine intervenes a little later and the power output is also limited. The power is relatively meaty. In ECON mode, the power response is slower. .
If the SPORT mode is adjusted, the power response of the Lingpai hybrid will be quite fast. The response of the accelerator pedal and the motor will be further improved, and the power will be output without reservation. In daily driving, NORMAL mode will be more commonly used. It would be appropriate if the power adjustment in this mode could be stronger.
In terms of energy recovery, Lingpai Hybrid provides a recovery "paddle" design. The driver can change the recovery intensity of the motor at any time according to road conditions. This design is quite convenient and deserves praise. . In contrast, Ralink Hybrid offers B gear as an option, which is relatively not that quick to use.
In terms of chassis, Ralink Hybrid uses front MacPherson and rear multi-link suspension. The suspension combination is better than that of similar models, but this suspension does not reflect its performance. Some value.
When driving on some small bumpy roads, its suspension does not filter these vibrations well, and the road feel will be clearly transmitted into the car, and the comfort will be poor. However, the benefits of multi-link suspension are also obvious. When passing through some large potholes or manhole covers, its impact on the entire vehicle will not be as great as that of torsion beam suspension, and the entire vehicle will not jump accordingly.
The rear suspension of the Lingpai hybrid is equipped with a torsion beam suspension. The overall adjustment of this chassis is quite comfortable, which is exactly the opposite of the performance of the Ralink hybrid. It filters fine vibrations on the road very well and can provide a good driving experience. However, when encountering large potholes, the comfort of the vehicle will be greatly reduced, exceeding the range that the torsion beam suspension can withstand, and the vehicle will jump significantly. Comparatively "subversive".
In terms of sound insulation, although the Lingpai Hybrid is equipped with ANC active noise reduction, the actual experience of its sound insulation level still did not bring surprises.
First of all, there is a lack of sound isolation in the engine compartment. The roar of the engine can be heard loudly or softly during every acceleration. Secondly, the wind noise is also quite obvious.
The sound insulation performance of the Ralink hybrid is better than that of the Lingpai hybrid. The sound insulation performance of both vehicles needs to be improved.
Round 5: Who has more space?
Space can be said to be a major advantage of the Lingpai hybrid. It has completely exceeded the space scope of a compact car. The riding space can beat the Ralink. Mixed up.
In terms of seat comfort, the fit of Honda's seats has been criticized for a long time. The seats do not provide enough support for the driver's lower back, making it easy to get tired after long-term driving. In contrast, the comfort performance of the Ralink Hybrid's front seats is much better.
However, what is interesting is that in terms of the comfort of the rear seats, the Lingpai Hybrid is able to come back. The padding of the rear seats is softer and thicker, and the riding comfort is better than that of the Ralink. Good mix.
In terms of seat configuration, both cars are relatively standard. The top-of-the-line Ralink hybrid provides electric adjustment of the main driver's seat, while the Lingpai hybrid provides front seat heating.
In terms of space, an experiencer with a height of 178cm sat in the Lingpai hybrid car and adjusted his sitting posture. There was still three fingers of headroom in the front row.
Sit in the Ralink hybrid car and adjust your sitting posture. He has a fistful of headroom, and the headroom is better than that of the Lingpai hybrid.
Keeping the front seat position, the experiencer sits in the back row. The headroom in the back row of Lingpai is still three fingers, and the legroom is quite good, more than two punches.
Sitting in the rear seat of the Ralink Hybrid, the experiencer has two fingers of headroom left and four fingers of legroom. There is a significant gap in the rear passenger space between the two cars.
As for the rear seats, the Lingpai Hybrid is also equipped with a headrest in the middle position. In addition, an integrated table with a rear center armrest is provided in the middle, which takes good care of rear passengers.
In terms of storage space in the car, the performance of both cars is in line with the level of this level of family cars. You don’t have to worry about water bottles and odds and ends. If you need to divide the storage space into high and low places, the Lingpai Hybrid has more storage space. Bigger.
In terms of trunk space, the Ralink hybrid battery is arranged under the rear seats, so the trunk space is not affected, but the battery has a certain impact on the thickness of the rear seats. The impact is that the comfort is a bit worse.
Lingpai Hybrid is arranged behind the rear suspension. Although there is no change in the depth of the trunk, the height of the trunk has been reduced to a certain extent. Fortunately, the battery does not completely occupy the entire lower part of the trunk, so the middle and rear parts of the lower part of the Lingpai hybrid trunk can still be used and can be compatible with some taller luggage.
Another thing worth noting is that the Lingpai hybrid rear seats do not support folding down proportionally, but there is an access port in the middle, which makes up for the regret to some extent.
The rear seats of the Ralink hybrid support folding down proportionally. Although the trunk and the trunk are not completely flat after folding down, the expansion capacity will be stronger.
Round 6: Who is more worth buying
From a comparison of fuel consumption, performance, driving and space, Lingpai Hybrid is inferior in other aspects except fuel consumption performance. Better than Ralink Hybrid.
Of course, the roar of the Lingpai hybrid engine will cause a certain amount of annoyance to driving, but apart from this aspect, the power performance can give you a smooth acceleration experience, which may be tolerated.
Space performance is what everyone values, so for home users with higher space requirements, I believe the choice is not difficult.
From a price point of view, the Ralink hybrid is priced at RMB 133,800-152,800, and the Lingpai hybrid is priced at RMB 139,800-169,800.
The overall price of the Lingpai Hybrid is slightly higher than that of the Ralink Hybrid. In terms of configuration, the two cars are basically the same. Both mid-to-high-end models are equipped with active safety assistance systems, so how to choose depends on the performance of the vehicle. It also depends on your budget.
This article comes from the author of Autohome Chejiahao and does not represent the views and positions of Autohome.