Not to be outdone, Pongo retorted: What, the pattern is too low! Help others happy, send a few! Besides, who says it's useless? Who knows consumers better than we do? I won't change!
While speaking, seeing my colleague's eyes splitting, he added weakly: but it can improve efficiency!
How to improve? Reply to more fans ... Shit! Then popularize the common problems that everyone encounters …
For example, many consumers added Peng Ge. The first question is which brand of broken bridge aluminum window is good? Which do you prefer, domestic or imported? Here we can sum up a big article, "How many pits do brands buy doors and windows?" 」
First, the status quo of door and window brands: do not have the ability to purchase directly.
At this stage, broken bridge aluminum alloy doors and windows occupy the absolute mainstream of the home improvement door and window market, and some door and window brands are gradually gaining popularity. But in general, at least for consumers, it is not a good policy to buy doors and windows according to their brands.
Due to the high degree of customization of home decoration doors and windows, the size, series, color, partition mode of frame and fan, glass and other configurations of doors and windows can be adjusted, and the requirements for production and installation are different, that is, "one window and one household".
Therefore, if you want to install it at home (better than your neighbor's home), you should not only consider the brand and price of doors and windows, but also examine the design ability and installation experience of the merchants.
But even if the products are doors and windows of good brands, there is no guarantee that your local dealers have experience and service consciousness. Not to mention some brands are not even good products. ...
If you don't believe me? Brother Peng summed up the pits that some fans have stepped on before:
2. Street shops such as Lv Feng, Mei Jian, Zhongwang and Xingfa are not real doors and windows.
"Peng elder brother, phoenix aluminum 70 casement window? This is the most frequently asked question by many "beginner" fans.
Brother Peng has been able to refine the answer into three sentences by answering hundreds of the same questions:
These brands are aluminum profiles, not doors and windows. These so-called "brand stores" can't be the "door and window direct stores" of well-known aluminum profile enterprises. Most of them are just dealers taking semi-finished products from the local aluminum agent's processing plant (many of them are fake).
Take Feng aluminum doors and windows brand store facing the street as an example. A thousand bosses made a thousand "doors and windows with different production standards" with a cutting machine (poor accuracy). The quality is uneven, and the brand name of Fenglv Aluminum is not worthy of the name.
Moreover, as far as door and window products are concerned, aluminum alloy profiles are only one of the main materials for making doors and windows, and the rest of the main and auxiliary materials such as glass, hardware and rubber strips, and street shops such as Phoenix aluminum doors and windows will not give you any benefits. "They spent all their costs on aluminum."
Third, the purchase and use experience of such brands.
Fans feedback the most common problems in these "brand" windows:
(1) The performance improvement is not obvious (installed means not installed, and the heat insulation is poor).
(2) Short service life (short service life does not mean that windows will fall off, but that the sealing performance of doors and windows will become worse after two or three years, and the performance of insulating glass will fail after two or three years).
Fans feedback the most purchase questions of these "brand" windows:
(1) Glass: Merchants like to use "My glass is from CSG, Bei Bo and Xinyi" to advertise that their glass is good, but in fact, merchants will go to small workshops to buy cheap insulating glass.
(2) Heat insulation strip: pvc material imitates nylon pa 66. The poor weatherability and stability of pvc insulation strip lead to the deformation of window frame.
(3) Hardware: There are many pirated products, domestic products pretend to be imported, and the handle brand acts as a complete set of hardware brands.
(4) Rubber strip: The quality of rubber strip is extremely poor.
Four. Suggestions for buying such brands
1, there are many conscientious merchants who are willing to provide doors and windows products and installation with the same value.
2. When to choose: If balconies, kitchens, bathrooms and quiet communities do not have high requirements for thermal insulation and sound insulation, and the performance of home doors and windows is not too great, it is cost-effective to use such doors and windows.
3. ask the glass. Straight to the point, tell merchants not to assemble insulating glass by hand, and only use it for 1-2 years. Don't fool me! I want tempered insulating glass (or other types of glass) made by hollow laminator in glass deep processing factory. The price of glass is twenty or thirty yuan a square meter, which is no problem!
4. ask the insulation strip. Don't directly ask the merchants whether your insulation strip is nylon pa 66 or pvc (pvc is inferior insulation strip), and the merchants in the province will cheat you. Instead, I should ask him indirectly: I heard that there are two kinds of heat insulation strips, which is better, nylon pa 66 or pvc? How to distinguish? Is there any material of heat insulation strip for experiment here? Don't buy businesses that tell lies with their eyes open or dare not tell you that pvc will stink when burned.
5. Ask about undressing. The quality of adhesive tape is also directly related to the effective service life of doors and windows. Many businesses that make money by saving product costs will use inferior tape or pvc tape, which will be scrapped in a year or two.
Don't ask the boss, just look at the tape you see in the shop, touch it and smell it. If it meets 2 or more points at 3 o'clock, it is inferior tape and unreliable: the tape looks gray or emits black light; It feels very elastic and has no extensibility at all; Smell the smell up close, stand up and feel the smell.
6, ask the hardware. Street brands generally have a variety of hardware brand configurations for you to choose from. Consumers often say: domestic or imported? Imported is good, but it costs 200 yuan a set, and then you finish a hope processor.
You should ask him: Where did you get this hardware? I want to see the receipt. Do you have any imported ones? What brand is the handle? What brand is the hardware in the window? Hardware refers to complete sets, and the quality of hardware such as sliding supports and connecting rod is equally important.
Verb (abbreviation for verb) brand of doors and windows in shopping malls
"Brother pengpeng, what about the XX brand I saw in Building Materials City? Is the performance good? This is a question that many beginners who want to buy good doors and windows often ask.
This is actually thinking too much about Peng Ge. There are hundreds of brands of broken bridge aluminum doors and windows in China, and each brand has a variety of different series, which is really difficult to distinguish. Peng Ge can only sum up all kinds of high-end brands in the mall like this:
1. The brands of broken-bridge aluminum doors and windows sold in shopping malls are divided into two categories: broken-bridge aluminum doors and windows with good quality and system doors and windows. Better quality broken aluminum doors and windows are mainly different from street shops, and the supply chain of product accessories is relatively more secure; The performance of the main doors and windows of the system is better, and the overall quality is better than that of the broken bridge aluminum doors and windows brand with better quality.
2. According to the price, the window and door budget is 1000 /㎡ (average price, the same below), so as to find the brand of broken bridge aluminum doors and windows with better quality;
Doors and Windows Budget 1000~ 1500 /㎡ Find the main doors and windows brands of cost-effective system, mostly local brands and northern brands;
Windows and doors budget 1500~2500 /㎡. The configuration and performance of doors and windows are mostly superior to the first window, and one or more of the materials, product workmanship, product performance and brand awareness are top-notch.
The window and door budget is more than 2500 /㎡, looking for high-end brand system windows, mostly imported brands.
3. According to business types, it can be divided into distribution and direct sales. Most stores are opened by dealers, who "purchase goods" directly from door and window manufacturers and are responsible for measurement, design, installation and after-sales. The characteristic is that the product quality is endorsed by the manufacturer, but the dealer's own skills are mixed; Direct selling, big cities such as Beishangguang, or local brands are characterized by relatively more affordable prices and stronger installation quality.
Six, shopping mall brand purchase and use experience
Fans feedback the most common problems in buying windows in shopping malls;
(1) The design experience is not good. "I didn't expect such a big brand not to consider my decoration layout."
(2) The installation capacity is uneven. "1/6 The window replaced by the renovation budget is as bad as the exterior wall glue used in the street shop." "I hit one more screw when I looked carefully, and I missed two when I turned around."
(3) big brand doors and windows can't work either.
Fans feedback the most shopping questions about buying windows in shopping malls:
(1) Shopping guide has two characteristics: "I don't know what features my brand has" and "Don't worry, we are the best".
(2) I didn't know that doors and windows were so expensive before I bought them. No matter what brand, the price is higher than my budget, and the price tag is too high.
(3) There are enough price routines, which are not expensive at first glance, and the quotations are doubled immediately.
(4) For doors and windows around1000/㎡, it is highly recommended to integrate screens, regardless of why.
(5) The merchants don't tell me the structural differences of different products and series.
(6) I can't see the works of the manufacturers.
(7) After-sale and indefinite contracts.
Seven, suggestions for shopping mall brands.
1. No matter what brand, the design ability and installation ability of the merchants who serve you will affect the final landing effect of doors and windows by more than 50%. Looking through his circle of friends and letting the merchant take you to the installation site is much better than looking at the products in the store.
2. Before buying, ask the brand of installation materials (mainly sealant and foaming agent), whether there are installation standards, and how to check and accept them can help you screen out more than 50% unreliable businesses.
(PS: installation auxiliary materials: brand glue and foaming agent brands refer to domestic first-line brands; Installation standard: refers to the horizontal verticality error of doors and windows, the flexibility of door and window locks, the appearance color difference and scratches of door and window glass, the sealing waterproof requirements, the installation position and quantity of screws, etc. Acceptance: Who will implement the installation standard, and do I have the right to accept it? )
For consumers and local manufacturers in first-tier cities, direct stores are the first choice. Not only the product performance and workmanship are guaranteed, but also the price, installation and after-sales have advantages. But we should pay attention to some brands that manufacturers can't do by themselves (local door and window enterprises). Shanghai fans have reported a local brand (Jian Pin LW), which is expensive and the product is extremely poor, and it is to fool consumers.
4. Don't be afraid that the total price of doors and windows is higher than my budget 10%. We can talk about it, and there is still a lot of room for discussion. Beware of the low price trap. Some doors and windows are all-inclusive, some need to add auxiliary materials (window sash, glass, hardware, auxiliary materials are calculated separately), and some need to add installation fees, so ask the total price of the merchant directly, and then calculate the average price by yourself and compare it with other stores (total price/total area = average price).
5, the purchase depends on the structure, Peng Ge teaches you a few tricks:
(1) If there is an anti-theft need downstairs or there is a baby at home, you can buy a series of screens for safety;
(2) The selection of sliding doors and windows mainly depends on the sealing performance, the fit between the top or rubber strip and the position of the window frame, concealed drainage, high and low rails (sliding windows), edge sealing covers and other accessories.
(3) Check whether there is a reasonable sealing design, whether the width of the insulation strip is long, whether the rubber strip has characteristics and whether the structure has an isotherm.
6. Just like what brand to buy, there is no need to ask you if this brand of doors and windows is good. What brand of aluminum alloy is it? Instead, ask some door and window accessories supply chain brands to be professional and pit-proof.
It will ask:
(1) site for deep processing of glass (the better the deep processing plant, the more expensive the glass imported by the merchants, and the more cost-effective it is for consumers);
(2) The brands of connecting hardware and handle hardware are respectively (the brand of connecting hardware+handle hardware is the same; All are imported, followed by domestic first-line);
(3) Ask the big window how to ensure that the doors and windows shake or whether they are equipped with strengthened centering (you need to ask whether there are any windows with a height exceeding 1.8 m at home, and strengthening centering is more reliable than simply making the doors and windows series bigger).
Optional question:
(1) The glass deep processing site of the manufacturer is reliable. Please ask the boss again, what is your standard glass? If it is 5+ 12 A+5 (the most common), ask him again: can insulating glass be replaced by two pieces of glass with different thicknesses? how much is it? (For example: 5+ 12 A+6, the cost is lost, but the sound insulation frequency band of insulating glass combinations with different thicknesses is improved. If you have higher requirements for glass, you can also ask him: "Have you added glass such as low-e/ laminated insulating glass?"
(2) Is the window opening fee charged according to the number of hardware sets? How much is each set? How many lock points are there? (3 > 2 > 1, the more locks, the better the sealing performance. If the merchant tells you that it is made in China, ask him if he can import it. There is no rope falling out of the window. Ask him if he can add it for free. If the merchant's hardware is an open hinge, ask him if he can change it into a hidden hinge.
(3) the brand of heat insulation strip and rubber strip (generally this cannot be replaced, so the better the relative brand, the more reliable it is. The specific brand Peng Ge wrote before).
7. Inquire about the production strength of manufacturers. The brand doors and windows of doors and windows shopping malls are relatively reliable, but they are not completely proportional to the price and brand awareness. Careful consumers want to know about the workmanship of doors and windows, inquire about what the same community has done, go to the site where the merchants are installing and touch the glass pressing line to see the aluminum alloy notches in the hardware and drainage positions.
8. Before you finally make up your mind to buy, you should also make two points clear: (1) After-sales-the after-sales problems of doors and windows mainly focus on self-explosion of glass, loose hardware and water leakage. Pick one and ask the merchant about the after-sales attitude; (2) Contract-Contract specification is a good brand.
Eight, shopping malls imported brands
Since this topic asks "Is there a big difference between domestic and imported quality?" ? ",Peng Ge listed the brands of imported doors and windows separately.
Imported aluminum alloy doors and windows brands are mainly distributed in well-known system windows with an average price of more than 2,500 yuan. The well-known brands are Schüco, Ykk, Wikner, Arrouk, Tostem and so on.
From the product point of view, the product structure advantages of foreign famous door and window brands are not as obvious as in previous years, but there are still many details worth learning from domestic products;
In terms of performance, for the vast majority of ordinary home improvement users, there is no difference between choosing to import or not. The performance of domestic brands is good, even extreme, which is more in line with the different regional environment in China.
From the perspective of face value, the shape of doors and windows has nothing to do with brands, but some brands pay attention to art, and the nuances are occupied by imported brands (representative: Ykk). Among advanced products, imported brands are dominant (representative: balcony skylight, balcony room of electric garage).
From the service of dealers, domestic brands are dominant, and imported brands of doors and windows are mainly for tooling and luxury houses, with a higher vision.
In terms of price, imported brands get goods at 50 cents, while domestic brands get goods at a penny, which varies from person to person.
Nine, online doors and windows brand
Different from the brands of doors and windows in shopping malls and stores, doors and windows have also become popular in the Internet age, hoping to become famous with the help of Internet traffic, but practical. ...
1, exhibition and dispatching center: some large-scale door and window brands owned or being recruited all over the country. Will open an online brand flagship store, one is promotion, and the other is offline drainage. In fact, consumers still have to go to local dealers to buy these brands, so it is essential to compare the experience and service ability of dealers.
2. Gang cheating: Brands that sell at low prices and sell at high prices account for a large proportion of online merchants. The German brand they admire (made by a small workshop), the elimination of middlemen (no one will become his dealer except his hometown) and the superior heat and sound insulation performance (only that the supervision is not in place) are all fake.
Pongo, a consumer who wants to buy doors and windows online, reminds that when encountering brands marked "German, Italian, Imported, SHIELD, Phoenix, Victoria, Sri Lanka", including the "street door and window brand" mentioned at the beginning of the article, he must keep his eyes open and beware of low quality and high price.
3. The real direct selling brand supported by online sales: there may be, but Peng Ge has not found it.
How's it going? How deep the water in the doors and windows is, it will make you shout "homesickness".
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